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xsrike
as far as i remember, def cap at 70 was 450? and right now is 540.i dont really see a decrease..
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xsrike
my bad. still 540 > 490
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Post by
Zakkhar
1. What happened to my Def Rating? Used to be above 500 in TBC. Now its around 450 :|
We used to get def skill from some bottom tier prot talents. Its no longer valid.
2. I didn't stick to Fury pve before, Arms pve was awesome for me during TBC. What's better now for dps/pve? Arms of Fury?
Both specs are very gear dependant but Arms is a little less. As long as you got a decent weapon its better than Fury with equal gear at entry levels (and until end game).
Arms is in general more proc reliable, rng dependant, while fury is more of a faceroll spec.
3. A sample of slam dps rotations would be awesome (since i was an avid fan of the slam dps rotation back then). Or you guys can give me another option if things have changed, maybe going fury pve?
There is no longer Slam rotation for arms because of changed mechanics of Slam. It no longer resets you melee swing, only delays it. You can put Slam in whichever spot of your melee swing you like.
In general Arms got buffed a lot since TBC (in 3.1 i think).
Atm Rend is a key skill in your PvE rotation. There is no strict rotation, more of a prio list:
Single target
Rage is scarce:
(Keep Rend up) > Execute (Sudden Death procs) > Overpower (Taste fo Blood procs) > Slam > MS at 60+ rage > HS at 100 rage and still comming > (Blade Storm - use it when your Rend has at least 6s left and no higher prio proc is up)
Rage is plentiful:
MS > Slam > HS > BS
EDIT: (i mean everything as above, only this changes)
Multi target:
(Keep Rend up) > Keep Sweeping Strike on cd > Execute > Op > Blade Storm > Victory Rush (if available) > MS > Slam > Cleave at 100+ rage and still comming
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Post by
jwjsmith
Arms stays in battle stance, yes, you also get 10% armor pen in that stance so it's awesome.
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Post by
Zakkhar
Wow, awesome reply. Thanks man!
One last question for you, uh. Since the skills Overpower and Rend are commonly used in PvE, does that mean I should stick to Battle Stance more often?
You should remain in battle stance 99.99% of the fight. It now gives 10% armor pen passive, which after reevaluating armor pen needed for 1% (15% higher i think) became even more valuable.
The only point you should get out of battle stance is to Intercept.
Atm i am using a macro like this (still working on it because it isnt ideal):
#showtooltip charge
/castsequence reset=20 charge,berserker stance,intercept,battle stance
1. You charge with 1 button hit.
2. After that you intercept with 3 button hits within 20s of this (zerker, intercept, switch to battle stance while intercepting)
3. If 20s passes macro skips 2 and just charges normally (1.)
It sometimes however stucks in zerker stance and doesnt want to of off it no matter how much i spam the button and i have to switch manually and after that i cannot charge sometimes. Gotta put battle stance in the begining with conditional somehow, or use a script.
When i am stuck in zerker stance i sometimes Blade Storm in it, before switching back to battle manually, but i think 10% arp > 3 crit with my axe spec (about 40% passive crit) anyway (and i got only t7.5).
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Post by
Lightrain
Make sure you read your
tooltips
(yes, that 75% healing debuff when you stack it with MS).
Go level and learn the new build designs.
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Post by
Lightrain
If you're still leveling, it doesn't matter. Your crit rating will go down significantly as well. Worry about stats at 80.
While leveling, block set would probably be the best bet if you're planning on leveling prot. Otherwise, Arms burst IMO is far better than fury for leveling.
Killing things without wasting time waiting for auto attack to kill things or watching porn till WW and BT come off CD is boring as hell IMO. Lets not forget that you get
http://www.wowhead.com/?item=43428
and pull 4 mobs, rend one for damage bonus, SS+Bladestorm and kill everything in 3 seconds.
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Zakkhar
Killing things without wasting time waiting for auto attack to kill things or watching porn till WW and BT come off CD is boring as hell IMO. Lets not forget that you get
http://www.wowhead.com/?item=43428
and pull 4 mobs, rend one for damage bonus, SS+Bladestorm and kill everything in 3 seconds.
Using BS with SS PvE wise is a waste. Use them separetelly. You instants do way more damage than you Whirlwind hits (while Blade storm is active) also this way you got more constant AoE (you dont kill 1 target faster than others) and longer AoE cds uptime in general.
Also i find this glyph pretty useless. 30 Rage is nothing for Arms. 1 Bloodrage,1 Charge or 1 crit.
Using Execute, Bs, Rend myself
Rend glyph is pretty average for leveling, but you got only 2 Major slots before lvl 80 anyway so...
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