Post by Kobrakai
Affliction -
http://www.wowhead.com/?talent=IzxMrurNkVVR0stbxczcZVDemo -
http://www.wowhead.com/?talent=IzxMbhZbgczsgoqcsguAoDestro -
http://www.wowhead.com/?talent=I0xZbxczcZVcbqrouAsAfozAs a note, if you are primarily doing BGs now, with the insane way burst is at the moment, Destro is actually pretty viable. Run it with Soul Link and a Succubus and you actually end up with some control for once.
Happy Warlocking.
Post by Ragingtiger
Hmm... Few notes.
For destro, I would imagine something like this:
http://www.wowhead.com/?talent=IbZbxcusZVf0qrMuAsAcozGot 2 points in CoA, because harder ticks are nice, but then again, it would get dispelled quicker, regardless, with what I finished with, I had 2 points left over, that was a nice placement.
some essencial demo talents, incase they get smart and kill your succ, you have quick recap, or if you want to sac your void for absorb.
Now for destro. I would imagine, them not being able to get to you and do damage would be nice, so aftermath and pyroclasm is a no brainer, you'll conflag for some burst, and a 3 sec stun comes with it? Sure. Plus, in WG or other fights, I use rain of fire to aoe everyone clumping together, them being stunned in the process works with me. Plus, sometimes if you got a backdraft up, and you want to get someone from 6k+ down to 0, use a soul fire, with pve gear, I can hit that no problem, I would assume it's different with pvp gear, so I'm not promising anything.
That's my destro pvp build anyways, seems slightly decent for pve too, it's missing alot of core talents, but... yeah.
As for aff,
http://www.wowhead.com/?talent=Irx0rurAkiiRcszbxczsI feel you missed some core talents, with your spec, you didn't have any buffs for any pet you'll be using, I'd assume that with aff, you'll run with a fel hunter, and you'll be DP-ing to not lose health if you need mana, and fel hunter getting mana + doing that little bit more dmg = win for me.
No death's embrace? I would think that if someone is almost dead, and you got a fear or something on them, if you use drain soul, you'll do massive damage, CoEx + improved fear compliment that very well. Other than that, everything is pretty straight forward.
But, I do like your demo pvp build, I personally would go destro instead of aff, but that's just me.
Post by Bladestriker
Hey man I've been following your stuff pretty hardcore for the past few days and I have to say that I've got more respect for you then I ever have for any other fellow lock. I'm not one to spam click TPs and then ask what people think of my build but because I hold you in such high regard I must ask for your opinion on this PVP destro build. I was just playing around in a calculator and this is what I ended up with-
http://www.wowhead.com/?talent#IchrMZZEbhqrIuVoAcot:Azpc0zIt's mostly focused towards highest DPS output and I know I passed alot of defensive ones like Molten Skin but that's because I'd rather invest the points in more damage dealing abilities and high crit rate/boost.
In the following build I sacrificed a few Destro points to go further in the Aff tree. But is it worth it?...to trade out Chaos Bolt for CoEx. I mean I also got Grim Reach and Nightfall and changed out the Chaos Bolt glyph for the Immolate glyph.
http://www.wowhead.com/?talent#IcxrMzrozZZEboqrcuVoVcox:qzpc0zAgain, I'm just asking for your opinion and I'm open to suggestions and for those people who I know will read this and critique it worse then a multi-billion dollar CEO critiques his hookers I never claimed to be the best but I will be eventually : )
I am too horrified and suspicious of trolling above to respond to the other posts, but you seem legitimate enough...
I disagree with a few of your points, namely the lack of Sould Link and Fel Domination, which are seen as critical PvP points. Without the damage reduction, we are as squishy as Fire Mages, so having 25%/30% damage reduction is essential. You also picked up Cataclysm instead of Molten Skin at tier 2 in the Destro tree. Damage reduction is more important a talent, especially considering that we can always life tap for more mana. If you think you can't life tap in PvP, you probably aren't playing right. Chaos Bolt is nice because it's burst that goes through shields and hits pretty hard. For a destro build, there isn't much need for improved fear, considering you have Aftermath and Glyphed Shadowflame. I'd recommend a spec more like this, which includes faster seduces to deal with rogues/warriors, 36% Damage Reduction(even more with resil and Nether Protection vs casters), and delicious burst. If you feel your pet is dying too fast, switch the imp healthstone points to imp health funnel. The reason the defensive abilities are actually better than some of your selected offensive abilities are because you stay alive to deal more damage longer. If you disagree with this playstyle then feel free to try all-out burst specs, but in that case, you're better off still with a PvE spec in Asakawa's Necronomicon.