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Post by
xblaauw
okay, i found it impossible to find any info about Blood PvP.
so far i have been fairly succesful with this spec:
spec
in unholy presence.
every and all melee doesn't seem to be standing a chance againt me (yes i won 3v1 in the arena vs a warrior ret pally and a frost dk)
my question would be: what stat should i stack to increase my damage output? because so far ive only been able to kill people that can heal reliably (enhancement shaman, all healers and priests) with dancing rune weapon and trinket popped.
crit or haste?
Post by
Orranis
Strength!
After that it would probably be Haste.
And in two's Blood is viable but not good, and after that it's really just crap.
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Post by
apocalypsa
Strength!
And get hitcapped. For defensive stats: MOAR RESILIENCE!
Post by
MrSCH
(yes i won 3v1 in the arena vs a warrior ret pally and a frost dk)
That isn't Blood being viable, that's your opponents being worse than the worst players on the planet.
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Post by
sfagias
(yes i won 3v1 in the arena vs a warrior ret pally and a frost dk)
That isn't Blood being viable, that's your opponents being worse than the worst players on the planet.
I actually refuse to believe this because as bad as someone can be this is not possible. Warriors will turn your plate armor into thin paper and both the warr and the DK will hit for too much for the Blood DK to keep up with healing-wise.
On-topic now, I guess str will be the major stat you want to stack, and the secondary... I guess haste would be more beneficial than the rest after hit-cap, but as Orranis said, Blood is viable for 2s (not that good) but in 3s it is far worse than UH or Frost.
Post by
apocalypsa
Blood isnt viable in arena, JUST ACCEPT THAT. For BG's however it can be a very powerful force, especially if backed up by a healer.
Post by
MrSCH
Blood isnt viable in arena, JUST ACCEPT THAT. For BG's however it can be a very powerful force, especially if backed up by a healer.
I think Blood's viable in casual arena.
Post by
apocalypsa
I think Blood's viable in casual arena.
Still not viable. Doable? Ofcourse.
Post by
sfagias
Anything is doable in casual play, however for something to be viable it needs to perform well in competitive play, and doing arenas as Blood just doesn't cut it. I really have no idea though why people keep using Blood in arenas since I can imagine without the utility UH or Frost has it must be very frustrating. Plus, in several team comps a Blood DK will just be ignored since the damage he does then is limited and next to nothing (no vengeance) or CCed to death, while his teammate will be bursted down fast.
Post by
MrSCH
I think Blood's viable in casual arena.
Still not viable. Doable? Ofcourse.
Makes it viable for a casual.
Post by
apocalypsa
I think Blood's viable in casual arena.
Still not viable. Doable? Ofcourse.
Makes it viable for a casual.
No. The casual guy would still do better as unholy with a healer.
Post by
MrSCH
I think Blood's viable in casual arena.
Still not viable. Doable? Ofcourse.
Makes it viable for a casual.
No. The casual guy would still do better as unholy with a healer.
Casual = someone who plays for the fun of playing as opposed to the person who tries for success.
Blood is viable for a casual.
Post by
Orranis
Blood is VIABLE in almost any situation.
However, short of BG's and very few situations in Rated BG's it is almost never OPTIMAL.
Post by
MrSCH
Blood is VIABLE in almost any situation.
However, short of BG's and very few situations in Rated BG's it is almost never OPTIMAL.
Exactamundo :)
Post by
Loetek
Blood Is great for the casual guy because there are less buttons to hit and less things to worry about. You can also take a lot more damage. And my death strikes heal up to about 30k per hit. not to mention other self healing abilities. Ive soloed 2s at the 1500 rating but it takes forever. And almost impossible if there is a healer. But i have done that also.
The biggest problem is that you will be CCed and they will burn your partner down since you have limited CC to help peel. After your partner is dead they will focus on you. Now if they focus on you and CC you and kite properlly you are toast. If they are face melters and just keep ramming into you its easy as pie.
Post by
Loetek
And for the OP
This is the partially the spec i use
http://www.wowhead.com/talent#jMGhccrMuszZfMb:0Ro0bkm0M
I left one glyph spot open depending on what you want to do. I would use the Death Coil one. Even though death coil is "weak" its still great for RP dumping if you are fighting someone thats kiting. And its a must if you are not in Blood presense since you cant runic strike.
Your poor over into the UH tree is fine. I just recently started using that since the self heal nerf of Lichborne. But I would drop Epidemic and put the points into Virulence. Diseases get dispelled so fast you want your ticks to actually get some damage off asap.
Post by
xblaauw
But I would drop Epidemic and put the points into Virulence. Diseases get dispelled so fast you want your ticks to actually get some damage off asap.
good point thank you!
im going for
http://www.wowhead.com/talent#jMGuforruszZf0b:sR00bk0m
in a min. mostly because you only fight melee about half of the time. so spending points in toughness would be kind of a waste considering it would only add a little bit of armor (we are not in blood presence remember...) i personally believe the added damage from blood caked blade is not enough to weigh up against talents like blood shield, hand of doom (wich is 100% pure awesome if you ask me) and scarlet fever (wich on itself is more powerfull then toughness.
i personally use chains of ice because i can use it at range. making desecration obsolete.
my 2 cents : )
note: i formed a team with my blood dk friend and we hit 1550 rating in 1 night : ) but your right... killing the healer is next to impossible.
Post by
apocalypsa
Outside of outbreak(which you want to save for 6x HS - DRW combos) you shouldnt use diseases at all. Not worth it by any means. Virulence is still better than Epidemic, but tbh, both suck for blood.
You SHOULD take Hand of Doom, no discussion here. Full Blade Barrier is a must too, and Bone Shield/bloodworms arent terrible talents either. Resilient infection is useless, and so is 3/3 Scent of Blood. Either 1/3 or 2/3 is more than sufficient.
Unless you strictly solo pvp, I'd take Glyph of Rune Tap.
Edit: I'm lvling another dk atm, as blood. And pvping is actually a blast. While I still wouldnt recommend it for high-end arena, its sure as hell fun in BG's or low arena.
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