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Cenarius & The Horde: Old wounds reopened ?
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soswu, please cite the chapter in which it says they were related. I've read all of the War of the Ancients series, and it was never said that Ysera was his mother. Malfurion suspected there were strong ties, but Knaak never said explicitly that they were mother and son.
Just look at Warsong Glutch!
I still don't get this one.
Or look at how the orcs tried to stop the night elfs from waking up Malfurion.
The Orcs weren't actively trying to keep Tyrande from waking Malfurion, they just happened to be in the way and shen she tried to cut her way through, they took offense and fought back. And how come nobody has mentioned when the Orcs worked WITH Malfurion after that at the Battle of Mount Hyjal. When there was a major threat to all the world. Like, maybe in danger of a Cataclysm of some kind.
Or how the blood elfs keep experimenting on Keepers of the Grove.
I think you're referring to the Blood Elf quest giver in Stonetalon Mountains. If not, enlighten me to what you are referring to. If that is it, I already addressed that in a previous post. But I'll put it again, with some bolds:
- There is one Blood Elf who offers quests against his children. One. With all of old-world Azeroth getting reworked quests are going to be shuffled around, it'd be very easy for that small chain to up and go away.
Also, it's very clear from the quest dialog that this Blood Elf is NOT really with the Horde.
Read the description.
Many fans theorized that Elune and Ysera are the same being, since they are both described as the mother of Cenarius and show great compassion for the lesser races. However, writer Richard A. Knaak has confirmed that they are NOT the same. See this thread by the owner of Blizzplanet for more details (also excerpted locally in the Birth and Children section of the article on Cenarius).
The Warcraft encyclopedia also confirms that they are separate entities, Elune being Cenarius's mother and Ysera being his teacher.
Could you explain one thing to me then, Why in the World of Warcraft book
is it stated that Ysera is his mother and there is no mention of her only being his teacher/Shan'do
Actually it states on WoWWikki that Ysera is his adoptive mother, and is a child of Elune and Ap'aro or Malorne (The white stag) however when Elune knew he was more mortal then deity, and thus gave him to Malorne who was with Ysera at the time, and Ysera took him in because she loved Malorne so much, treated him like a son and made him the first Druid, and then he taught Druidism to the Tauren.
This post was from a user who has deleted their account.
PS - What spec is Cenarius ?
Well, he had four abilities in
, namely: Entangling Roots, Force of Nature, Thorns Aura and Tranquility. Three of those abilities are available to all druids, but Force of Nature is a talent. So the conclusion is: Cenarius is balance-specced. :0)
- Orcs tried to murder him
they DID kill him, well, if hes back then they really didnt...
- Blood Elves representing the Horde are assigned to murder his children in Ashenvale via a quest chain.
blood elves were once Night elves, and using these quests as evidence is pretty trivial, i mean, its one quest and after the cataclysm, a few child assasinations isnt going to be the biggest problem.
- The Horde's deforesting in south eastern Ashenvale
true i guess, though I would think that would annoy cenarius.
- Warsong Outriders ( in WSG )
true, though, this somewhat ties into the previous question
- Garrosh's potential inspiration of his father will lead to Cenarius's life being threatened
eh, i doubt it. when Grom killed Cenarius it wasnt a fair fight. Grom was freshly imbued with potent demon blood, as were many other warriors. the demon blood inside Grom and the warriors was very potent and fresh. Grom killed Mannoroth and the power the blood gave them was destroyed.
PS - he should be a question marked boss due to his power.
eh, hes not that powerful really...
There is no doubt that Cenarius must be hostile with the orcs, there are the resons:
1.They drunk the demons' blood when the witch doctor told them when Grom was about to drink it.
2.They killed high numbers of night elfs before the Battle for Mount Hyjal.
3.They caused high damage to the nature.
4.They killed him.
5.A blood elf is offering quests against his sons and his daughters.
6.Horde is cutting Ashenvale's Trees.
7.Horde is hostile to Night Elves in Warsong Gulch and tries to take their territories .(##RESPBREAK##)16##DELIM##asakawa##DELIM##Hi there,
I don't know the lore well enough to know if the info in this thread is outdated or not but it's certainly a very old thread. I'm going to leave it open and just add this note to remind you to check the date on things and always see if there's a recent thread in which to participate. I think you might like the
General Lore Discussions thread
All the best,
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