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Chaotic Skyflare vs. Relentless Earthsiege
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Yes, I read the guide that says Relentless Earthsiege is better because we don't have to waste 2 slots on blue gems. But if that's the only reason it's better then my question is what about 2
? +10 stats is pretty good. I would like to confirm that a Nightmare Tear will count toward the Meta requirement if it's not in a blue socket? I assume it would since a single Nightmare Tear can count for all three requirements for the Relentless Earthsiege. Not that it would matter for me anyway since I'm a BS and have free prismatic sockets to play with.
I'm not a number cruncher and I assume if this was better, or equal, it would have been posted already, but I figured there's no harm in asking. I just really like that crit. What does 21 agility give a ret pally anyway?
Edit: OK, I get it, bad idea. I'll stick to tanking. Thanks for the info.
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+10 stats is good? Really? 60% of that is pretty much completely useless, and you're giving up
of the increase on your best DPS stat for an epic strength gem.
You want crit instead of agi, because what does agi give? It gives, wait for it, crit.
You can't socket two prismatics and it would be a DPS loss if you could.
The socket you put a gem in doesn't matter in regards to what color it is for activating a meta, but you wouldn't waste a prismatic gem in a prismatic socket. You put your prismatic in the socket that will give the best socket bonus non-strength gems can give.
Math because I'm a math nerd.
Let's assume Giez is right, and 1 point of agility gives you .67 points of crit. 21 agility, then is worth 14 crit, meaning Chaotic Skyflare gives you 7 more crit.
To activate your Skyflare, since you can't double up on Nightmare Tears, you have to socket something like a Sovereign Dreadstone, which gives you 10 strength. It also gives you 15 stamina, but you shouldn't need that as DPS.
Now, if you had used Relentless Earthsiege, you wouldn't have to putz around with that, and could just socket straight Bold Cardinal Rubies. Not having to use a purple gem, then, nets you 10 extra strength.
And, for those keeping score at home, 10 strength beats 7 crit for a Ret paladin in every way possible.
Of note, for those too poor or too cheap to socket epic gems, if you run the numbers with superior gems like Sky Sapphires and Scarlet Rubies, you still gain 8 strength by going with Relentless Earthsiege.
Skyflare is sexy, but the numbers don't lie. Relentless Earthsiege is the ONLY meta for a Retadin.
EDIT: I can't say for sure that Giez IS right and 1 AGI = .67 crit. But it sure sounds right. Anyway, you'd need like 20 crit to match that 10 strength, so unless 1 agility gives ZERO crit, Relentless Earthsiege still wins.
Good math, but Agility is actually 88% as effective as Critical Strike Rating for Paladins-
45 Critical Strike rating for 1% Crit, and 52 Agility for 1% Crit.
Makes the point for RED much stronger, actually.
Cool, thanks for clarifying. I socketed a Relentless Earthsiege last night, and I thought of this thread while I did it. :)
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