Could A Plot Hole Ever Ruin A Story For You?

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What series was it?

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Post by gnomerdon

or maybe it sets up a scenario where the main character takes the weapons from the bad guy and defeats him.

i dont care what goes in the middle, the ending determines if it's good or not. did the hero struggle and win? or did the hero struggle and lose?

there has to be a struggle on both ends. if it ends with the hero in god mode, instantly killing or stopping something, the book gets an automatic 5/10, vice versa. if the villian instantly kills or stops the good guy with some type of hack, COME ON..

that's the main killer for me.

iron 2 is my best example.

Post by AgileRiposte

Plot loops and holes and whatnot generally wont ruin a story for me if the writer knows what they are doing and are capable of weaving an impressive story. That being said, huge gaps and blatantly lazy devices like "Then magic saved the day at the last second" annoy me and make me a sad panda.

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Post by Gone

I've had plot holes that bugged me, and I've had stories ruined because of multiple plot holes. I guess it depends how gaping a hole it is, and how often it happens.

Usually a plot hole is a sign of poor writing, which can also ruin a story.

Post by EdantheDwarf

Depends on the size and placement of the hole. If the hole is in a minor side plot then I will just skip past it but if it is in the main plot then I might try to read around it but normally I just put the book down.

Post by Trollfucious

Trollfucious once had a story ruined by a plot hole. The sun was in Trollfucious eyes, and he stepped back to get under tree shade, and he fell into the plot hole, and then everyone ran and yelled and honorable mother cried, and then no one could hear the end of Trollfucious's story. Worst eulogy ever.
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Post by MyTie

Plot holes do bother me, but what bothers me more is when a character has to do something profoundly stupid to move the plot forward. One example is from the movie "Constantine", starring Keanu Reeves. Toward the end of the movie, he gives the girl this protective charm that prevents demons from attacking her, or hurting her in any way, because he knows she is the target. Then, he tells her to stay in the car. Then, he goes to face the son of Satan and some pretty mean demons in this large commercial building. So, what does the lead girl do as soon as Reeves walks off? She gets out of the car to follow him, and the camera pans down to the protective charm that she conveniently left in the car. Then the rest of the plot pretty much revolves around awful things happening to her.

Another thing I hate are when the hero accidentally drops his gun right at the moment the bad guy approaches.

Pretty much any situation that makes me say "oh come ON". If you are going to spend millions of dollars making a movie, at least take the time and effort to make believable plot devices, not just "at this point the hero drops his gun, and the dastardly villain makes good his escape".A book called "Do androids dream of electronic sheep", a.k.a. the Bladerunner book, written by Philip K. @#$%, and... it was a really good story and all, but it had this one thing that I just considered a gigantic plot hole, and it just ruined the feeling of the book for me totally.

What plot hole was in that book?

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A book called "Do androids dream of electronic sheep", a.k.a. the Bladerunner book, written by Philip K. @#$%, and... it was a really good story and all, but it had this one thing that I just considered a gigantic plot hole, and it just ruined the feeling of the book for me totally.

What plot hole was in that book?
Spoilers of pretty much the whole "Do androids dream of electronic sheep" below. I do not know if what I wrote would spoil the movie, cause I didn't see it and don't know how much it follows the book.
Might not seem like a problem to some people, but I just found it stupid how the androids maintained an entire huge fake ministry of justice. It is just too big to be rational, considering how easy it was to detect androids in the book. I know the author tried hard to make it sound like you can only detect an android when you are a professional and use special tests, but seriously, beings without empathy? You could start a conversation about a cat and catch them within five answers. Now that I say it, I guess that was also a plot hole, the way how the androids were supposedly super hard to reveal while their "symptoms" were so severe and obvious and would especially come out during small talks and stuff. The book had some big upsides, like the development of the main characters, and the whole thing where he is unsure if he is an android himself, but has some downsides too. Another thing that kinda bugged me was that the main character was supposed to be the second best android hunter of his ministry, yet in almost every single interaction with an android, he acted extremely incompetent and was caught off guard by the most basic tactics, like if he had absolute trust into every person he meets or something.