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irharry
Its been asked for since day one. Its second only on most warlocks wish lists to green fire. In fact, if they give it to us i may not even roll the deathknight I've wanted since beta......
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Post by
Dunsinane
There have been some "leaks" from the alpha on some other forums. How accurate they are is anyone's guess - and of course any actual talent tree change is very subject to change right now.
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Dunsinane
Post 70 the balances will change. Every other class will be getting new skills too. So whether it is "OP" or not will depend on a billion things that we're only speculating about.
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Post by
asakawa
of course it's early days. we have little information and everything can(will) change but demon form seems very pvp. i can't see how it would be useful for most pve. it might be great for warlock tanking but it looks like DKs will take over most caster tanking needs.
having read through all the leaked talents (
http://urlshort.com/wotlk/site/talentlist.php
) i actually hope that a lot will change.
the destruction talents seem at odds with themselves. lots of stuff which requires changing from fire to shadow and back on the fly. there's also a lot of talents that mention spirit which really surprised me. i suppose it gives an idea about what blizz want to do with locks in the future.
the affliction talents seem to play against each other too. why would i AOE corruption when i can seed? and why would i want a skill that refreshes the timer on corruption when it has a 'bomb' at the end of the timer?
well it's all very interesting but i'm far from giddy.
-edit- ah, nef posted before me with simliar concerns. also the soul link move to 11 points does not include the damage increase, only the damage mitigation.
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Post by
asakawa
I disagree that the dedication to spirit shows what will become of the class. I'm thinking they added it as a filler while they figure out whether to scale it with stamina (best for PvP) or spell damage (best for PvE).
when i read this i agreed and perked up a bit but the more i read into the leaked information the more mention i see of spirit. i wonder if they see PVE warlocks stacking spirit.
the latest thing i noticed was:
"Fel Armor(Rank 4) - "Surrounds the caster with fel energy, increasing spell damage by up to 180 and allows 30% of your mana and health regeneration to continue while casting."
well i think 30% of my mana regen would be about 30-40 mp5 >.<
meanwhile the added healing bonus now goes on demon armour.
but still 'demonic pact' (new talent adds 5%spirit) seems totally at odds with 'demonic embrace'. and 'kindling soul' (spell damage increased by a % of you spirit and crits give a bonus to spirit) just seems "out there" for locks
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Post by
asakawa
there's been some talk of blizz trying to make gear less specific to classes so caster stuff is good for all but i don't see this solving any more problems than it creates. i've also heard of plans to make spirit affect damage like strength does for melee. while this fits with some of the leaked stuff i don't see how that would be a win for blizz.
as for the 51 point aff talent, seems like it could work nicely in pvp along with 'haunt' ("You send a corrupted soul into the target, doing 800 damage over 2 sec. Haunt will continue to travel between targets who suffer from your Corruption spell. After traveling from up to three targets, the corrupted soul will return to you, healing you for 50% of the total damage done."). but i'm dreadful at pvp so i'll let you comment on what you think of it as a tactic.
Post by
Eiskalt
The infinite number of "ZOMG OP" cries that would come from Soul Link being further up in the tree will probably prevent that from happening. Also, if they make us go for spirit I'm sure there will be many many /facepalms.
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Post by
Blightman
Demon form, bleh. Another way for blizz to get us to stop using our demons and just be shadow mages
Post by
victor2008
Cataclysm
Reduces the Mana cost of your Destruction spells by 1/2/3/4/5%, and increases the chance to hit with your Destruction spells by 1/2/3/4/5%.
Less spell hit stacking. also a great alternative for ISB..
Post by
Zamfix
It has been mentioned that perhaps spirit will be getting a buff to make it useful, which may be part of Blizzard's grand scheme to make gear useful for more classes so instead of having gear that is just good for mages or warlocks, there is one piece of gear that is good for both of them. Its their whole narrowing of itemization.
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