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Post by
Laihendi
So because a tree doesn't regulate it's temperature it isn't alive.
Post by
Haxzor
Trees regulate their temperature
Post by
Laihendi
Yes, Laihendi was being stupid. But still, explain how a fetus is incapable of regulating body temperature, and if you can, provide a source saying that homeostasis is a requirement for life.
Post by
Laihendi
What?
Post by
Haxzor
Yes, Laihendi was being stupid. But still, explain how a fetus is incapable of regulating body temperature, and if you can, provide a source saying that homeostasis is a requirement for life.
Homeostasis IS regulating body temp.
so check your definition.
Take a foetus out of the womb, attach it to food, it will cease to function
happy now?
Post by
Laihendi
So if it dies, then you just admitted that it was alive.
Nice edit Haxzor.
Post by
Haxzor
Die was a figure of speech.
Post by
Laihendi
Umm... actually it's a word.
Post by
Haxzor
So if I say my computer died, it means it was alive?
Post by
Laihendi
No... but a fetus isn't mechanical, it's organic, and it grows, so it's alive.
Post by
116056
This post was from a user who has deleted their account.
Post by
Haxzor
No... but a fetus isn't mechanical, it's organic, and it grows, so it's alive.
Life consists of 4 qualities
Post by
Laihendi
Laihendi googled it and couldn't find anything. Link a site describing these four qualities?
6,000 posts.
Post by
Haxzor
Technically a Foetus isnt alive
Life
–noun
1. the condition that distinguishes organisms from inorganic objects and dead organisms, being manifested by growth through metabolism, reproduction, and the power of adaptation to environment through changes originating internally.
2. the sum of the distinguishing phenomena of organisms, esp. metabolism, growth, reproduction, and adaptation to environment.
Post by
Laihendi
There's nothing about homeostasis.
And that also doesn't prove that a fetus is incapable of homeostasis.
Post by
Haxzor
Life
–noun
1. the condition that distinguishes organisms from inorganic objects and dead organisms, being manifested by growth through metabolism, reproduction, and the
power of adaptation to environment through changes originating internally.
2. the sum of the distinguishing phenomena of organisms, esp. metabolism, growth, reproduction, and adaptation to environment.
That's homeostasis right there
Post by
Laihendi
Regulation of calcium homeostasis in the fetal and neonatal rat
M. L. Thomas, C. S. Anast and L. R. Forte
Circulating levels of calcium (Ca) and immunoreactive parathyroid hormone (IPTH), and the renal cyclic AMP responses to PTH, calcitonin (CT), and vasopressin (VP) were measured in fetal and neonatal rats. Serum Ca increased from a mean value of 9.1 mg/dl on the 19th day of gestation to 10.9 on day 20. Circulating IPTH decreased from 875 pg/ml to 213. Serum Ca declined rapidly after birth to a nadir of 7.6 by 3 h and IPTH increased to 2,006 pg/ml, indicating that fetal and newborn parathyroids are capable of responding appropriately to changes in circulating Ca. Renal responsiveness to hormones was assessed in vitro in the presence of methylisobutylxanthine, a phosphodiesterase inhibitor. The tissue cyclic AMP response to PTH and CT (15- to 18-fold over basal) was greatest at gestational days 18 and 19, progressively declined throughout the remainder of gestation, and remained low during the first 24 h after birth (6- to 7-fold). Renal cyclic AMP response to VP remained consistently low throughout this period. The depressed renal cyclic AMP response to PTH at the time of birth may contribute to the hypocalcemia found in newborn rats.
http://ajpendo.physiology.org/cgi/content/abstract/240/4/E367
It would seem that a fetus has the ability to adapt to the environment through changes originating internally.
Post by
Haxzor
Where are the environmental changes?
Post by
Haxzor
Well I'm off to bed, night.
You all should really consider vegetarianism, and I hope you've realized killing animals for fur and meat and such is pointless and unneeded and tasty.
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mudfish
I like my
blue ball machine
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