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Post by
Skreeran
Why is Israel in the eurovision song contest. Like I'm 100% sure they're not in europe. Not to mention no one likes them. YOU CAN'T SIT WITH US.I wouldn't say no one likes them. They have a lot of supporters here in the US.
That's a tough one. It really depends on the context of the question.Well, there was no sex as a consequence, but it was a pretty intense 20 minutes.
Post by
MyTie
Well, there was no sex as a consequence, but it was a pretty intense 20 minutes.
If someone asked me if I was having sex with my wife in public if I french kissed her, I would say no. If my daughter made out with her boyfriend, alone on a couch, for 20 minutes, then I would consider that contact of a sexual/intimate nature. You see how this could be a fine line?
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240140
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Post by
Rankkor
if you deny saying it, how can your apology be sincere?
It isn't. I was being sarcastic. It's my way of saying 'tough luck'
I see, then this whole tirade on the previous page was what? sanctimonious and patronizing mocking of the very people you've offended with your stereotyping?
I find it funny that after saying stuff like that, then refusing to apologize, then MOCKING the ones you've offended, you have the galls to play victim when you get your comeuppance. And then claim that mods "have it in against you".
Clearly this attitude of yours has NOTHING to do with it and they're just being mean for no reason at all.
So new topic. I'd ask for it to be a QoTD, but I'm not that patient... :P
Recycle Bin, would you consider French Kissing to be sexual contact?
Nah, its a mild form of it I guess, but I don't really define it as sex if it doesn't involve genitals.
One thing CAN lead to another however :P Just sayin'
Well, there was no sex as a consequence, but it was a pretty intense 20 minutes.
If someone asked me if I was having sex with my wife in public if I french kissed her, I would say no. If my daughter made out with her boyfriend, alone on a couch, for 20 minutes, then I would consider that contact of a sexual/intimate nature. You see how this could be a fine line?
this is a logical fallacy.
Sexual Contact =/= Sex.
Touching a boob is a sexual contact, but its not actual sex. Penetration, oral jobs, and so on, ARE a form of sex, but a simple grab isn't really considered as "having sex"
Post by
Skreeran
If my daughter made out with her boyfriend, alone on a couch, for 20 minutes, then I would consider that contact of a sexual/intimate nature. You see how this could be a fine line?
Nah, its a mild form of it I guess, but I don't really define it as sex if it doesn't involve genitals.
One thing CAN lead to another however :P Just sayin'Mmm. The reason I ask is because I like this girl, and we've made-out a couple times, but I don't want to have sex with her yet because I don't want to get her pregnant or set her up for pain or betray her trust if it doesn't end up working out. I'm of the opinion that sex doesn't
have
to wait for marriage, but that's really not a goal to shoot for. I personally treat sex as an act of supreme intimacy, and something I wouldn't want to get tangled up with before committing fully.
And while I don't really consider making out to be a sexual act, at the same time, I wouldn't want her to feel like I was pushing for sex.
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240140
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Post by
Skreeran
I meant in europe though. And the rest of the world doesn't really care about americas opinion when it comes to israel (or most things, but you have bigger guns)Forgot to reply to this. I agree that it makes no sense for Israel to be in Eurozone. But my family is Jewish and generally supportive of Israel.
I myself an more or less ambivalent. Both Israel and Palestine have done some pretty terrible things to each other, and both have cases to make as to why they need to be there. I don't support one or the other, but I wish that the situation could be resolved with both parties more or less happy.
Post by
MyTie
your stereotyping
Ok, Rank, I'm going to say it one more time for ya. There are people who live and breathe wow, and it consumes their lives. There are lots of people like that. They don't have lives outside of wow, and instead dedicate everything to the game. There are enough of those people, that encountering players like that in wow pvp isn't uncommon. That makes the game unenjoyable for me. If you infer some sort of stereotype about "all good players" or "all wow players" or... really... anybody, then it's just that, your inference. And, if even AFTER I've said that that ISN'T what I meant, you still insist to draw that inference, then it has ceased to be my problem, and you aren't going to get an apology out of me for anything.
I remember at one point, the battlegrounds in wow, around level 15, or whenever you can start in pvp battlegrounds, there were people who had a level 15 character dedicated to pvp, and had all the very best pvp gear for that level 15 character. It was impossible to go into those, with your average everyday character, and not get one-shotted by them. Every battleground seemed to have 3 or 4 of these characters, and the entire battleground became them between eachother, with the rest of everyone (me included) simply being bug splats on the windshield. Then, when I got to top level, there is always one rogue who simply appears behind you and you are dead, or one mage who blasts the hell out of you before you can figure out how to get to where they are. That's just what these people do, day in and day out.
They are there. I have seen them. I'm not wronging you by saying that they are there. Take it at face value, and move on.
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240140
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Post by
Skreeran
Defenders of Zionism say it is a national liberation movement for the repatriation of a dispersed socio-religious group to what they see as an abandoned homeland millennia before.
Critics of Zionism see it as a colonialist or racist ideology that led to the denial of rights, dispossession and expulsion of the indigenous population of Palestine
Now this isn't a critic on israel, but on zionist defenders... that is a very lame defensive statement. I mean, couldn't you think of something better?Well, it's very important in Judaism. If I were to go displace a bunch of Africans because my ancestors came out of Africa 200,000 years ago, that would seem wrong, but for a Jew, Jerusalem is the holiest city in the world, and that land was given to them by God.
On top of that, at this point, you have two or three generations of Israelis born in Israel. You can't tell me that that's not their home.
I don't agree with a lot of things Israel does, but I can't really say they should just give up all their land either. The Jews would not give Jerusalem to the Muslims without heavy bloodshed. I'd like to see the situation resolved non-violently.
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240140
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Post by
Rankkor
One thing CAN lead to another however :P Just sayin'Mmm. The reason I ask is because I like this girl, and we've made-out a couple times, but I don't want to have sex with her yet because I don't want to get her pregnant or set her up for pain or betray her trust if it doesn't end up working out. I'm of the opinion that sex doesn't
have
to wait for marriage, but that's really not a goal to shoot for. I personally treat sex as an act of supreme intimacy, and something I wouldn't want to get tangled up with before committing fully.
And while I don't really consider making out to be a sexual act, at the same time, I wouldn't want her to feel like I was pushing for sex.
Then talk to her. Tell her exactly that. A lot of good potential relationships have crashed and burned due to lack of communication, on one or both sides.
State to her that you wanna wait before sex, and presto.
Skree, if you only make out and don't get touchy, there should be no problem in it getting too sexual. Of course make sure to ask her if it's okay though, specially if you do end up getting touchy.
Always making sure you have 100% consent is the most important thing, really.
I really can't emphasize enough how important that highlighted bit is.
And mytie: A: those low lvl toons geared up? yeah those are twinks. And for your information mister, I have one of those. I'm not a part of that crowd you describe. You are stereotyping whether you wanna admit it or not, as setting up a twink takes less than 8 hours if you have a good guide, and if done with a trial account, they stay locked at lvl 20 allowing you to stay in low lvl BGs forever.
Low level pvp is never balanced, neither here, nor in any other game, its just not possible, its at the level cap that you must strive for balance, and that whole "rogue shows up and 1shots you, mage shows up and oneshots you" hasn't been true in a long long LONG time. Specially now that in 72 hours resillience is being removed from the gear and every player will have 60% of it by default, meaning even when fully naked, its gonna be impossible for any player to kill you in one hit.
YOUR misinformation being interpreted and presented as factual doesn't really speaks well of you.
Post by
Skreeran
Well, it's very important in Judaism. If I were to go displace a bunch of Africans because my ancestors came out of Africa 200,000 years ago, that would seem wrong
That's what it seems like to the rest of us. Yeah it's complicated now and there is no easy solution. It shouldn't have been done in the first place but it's not like we can time travel.Yeah, I agree with this. It's also hard to stay unbiased when I personally know Israelis who are really nice people, but all of the English-speaking Arabs I've talked to on the internet (Al-Jazeera website, mainly) attack me for being American.
Then talk to her. Tell her exactly that. A lot of good potential relationships have crashed and burned due to lack of communication, on one or both sides.
State to her that you wanna wait before sex, and presto.Mmm, good advice. We got a date later this week and I'll bring it up then.
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240140
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Post by
MyTie
YOUR misinformation being interpreted and presented as factual doesn't really speaks well of you.
Admittedly, I know very little about World of Warcraft.
Post by
Skreeran
Well you have to consider what America means to someone living in the middle east.
A lot of americans think that all muslims are terrorists because of something like the boston marathon, where only two people died (though their deaths matter greatly), in the middle east, depending on where you live, the battle between the american army and whoever most likely will have cost the life of someone you know.
I had a good friend from afghanistan, her sister was shot by an american soldier. And while the soldier is only following orders, and not all americans are in the army, when you are so closely affected by something, you're not going to care about being fair like that.
I'd say the same thing if you've lost a close one in a terrorist attack, or another war. (unless your country invaded, in which case... no)
Also drones are evil. I'd call Obama a terrorist but that's for another thread, another day.Yeah, yeah, I can sympathize and understand, but it's still hard to remain unbiased when
this guy
represents Israel in my brain and Al-Jazeera commentors represent Palestinians in my brain. Yes, I know that judging a country or cause by folks on the internet is terrible (just look at America... >_>), but I'm just admitting my biases. It's hard for me to judge fairly.
As for drones, you're right that it's for another thread, but really I don't really make a differentiation between a General ordering a missile strike from thousands of miles away and a drone pilot carrying out a precision shot from thousands of miles away. It's a man killing a man with a hugely unfair technological advantage.
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240140
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Post by
Skreeran
Lol. :P That's the thing. Our brain likes to categorize people and assume that everyone within a group is the same. That's really the root of racism, sexism, and just about every other kind of prejudice we have. And overcoming that is a lot more difficult than just deciding to not prejudge anyone anymore. It's a subconscious thing, usually.
Post by
MyTie
I could become biased and hate America cause I think you're all mytie
You'd love the USA. My views are increasingly unpopular here as well.
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240140
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