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Fire mage help please
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Post by
nickseng
Where does the 33% crit number come from anyway?
Post by
Frox
Where does the 33% crit number come from anyway?
Vincistis probably thought about Frost while mentioning crit.
Post by
Nathanyal
Where does the 33% crit number come from anyway?
Vincistis probably thought about Frost while mentioning crit.
Most likely, but the best crit % is at 100. But since that won't happen unless some mechanic in a raid or instance does that for you.
Right now most people getting 40% crit when raid buffed, or so I hear.
Should have haste to soft cap so when raid buffed it reaches the 12.5% for the extra tick on the DoTs. Hit at 6% for heroics and 17% for raids and don't worry about mastery all to much. It should go something like this:
Int > hit (6% heroics/17%raids) > haste soft cap > crit > haste > mastery
Reforge mastery to hit if not at cap, if so then to either crit or haste.
Post by
Frox
Nathanyal is on the money.
In mostly heroic gear, the paper doll crit will be about 25% with glyph Molten Armor and all heroic dungeon gear when properly reforged. With a good amount of raid gearing, that number will reach around 30%.
The additional 10% crit Nathanyal is talking about will come from Critical Mass/Shadow Power, and a 5% crit buff from whatever classes that bring it.
Post by
Zakkhar
Should have haste to soft cap so when raid buffed it reaches the 12.5% for the extra tick on the DoTs. Hit at 6% for heroics and 17% for raids and don't worry about mastery all to much. It should go something like this:
Int > hit (6% heroics/17%raids) > haste soft cap > crit > haste > mastery
Reforge mastery to hit if not at cap, if so then to either crit or haste.
Not entirely accurate.
INT > Hit > spp > haste soft cap (516) > crit (if u use FB)/mastery (if u use FFB) > mastery/crit > haste over soft cap
that untill 372 gear levels, when mastery drops down and haste gets over crit.
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There are no magic numbers. Use Rawr or more specialised mage spreadsheets when in doubt.
Post by
Random0235
To confirm: the haste soft cap is 512 if you picked up Netherwind presence and you have a 5% haste raid buff (shaman totem, boomkin, spriest).
The soft cap is to get 1 extra tick of your dots.
Post by
Zakkhar
To confirm: the haste soft cap is 512 if you picked up Netherwind presence and you have a 5% haste raid buff (shaman totem, boomkin, spriest).
The soft cap is to get 1 extra tick of your dots.
516. The IF is what makes it soft cap.
The first additional tick of Living Bomb, Pyroblast (Dot) and Frostfire Bolt (Dot) requires 516 Haste Rating. This is only ~4.022% from gear. You might be thinking, "You just said we need 12.5% Raid Buffed. So why do we only need ~4.022% from gear?"...
Again
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Zakkhar
Not entirely accurate.
INT > Hit > spp > haste soft cap (516) > crit (if u use FB)/mastery (if u use FFB) > mastery/crit > haste over soft cap
Value of haste (over soft cap) may have risen a bit due to last patch making Scorch weaving minimal as a result of greatly lowering Fireball cost.
Post by
nickseng
If I read correctly, value of haste has risen due to Ignite Munching and the Mana reduction to fire spells
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