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Post by Zequel

.. dps is dps is dps...

Not when the mage's dps is 1/2 of mine. With spellfire and similiar gear vs s1, I could easily double a mage's dps on a boss fight in Kara. They'd be gimping the raid. Waste of a raid space imo. I'd rather 9man it and give the loot/shards to someone more deserving.

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Post by Zequel

Perhaps, but I really doubt it's that much of difference to say sorry you can't go - or whatever. Some really good pvp mages have 900 or more +dmg. Don't tell me that's not good enough for KZ, c'mon.

All situations and raid members require review when it comes to gear, I understand that - but just because a toon may be in pvp gear doesn't mean that mage would gimp the raid.

If you're doing double the dps of a pvp mage, that's awesome - but that pvp mage has issues. PvP gear does NOT hamper your toon THAT much unless SOMEthing is wrong, be it spec or skill.

I'd say you want at least +600 dmg for Karazhan, the more you have, the easier the fights will be.
I guess I sounded harsh, but I do know PVP casters with around 500 spell dmg. That's questionable. With SF and the best blues, you can easily hit 800. I just hate ppl who show up with crappy greens and some PVP epics to raids.

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Post by Avallen

S1 gear (hell, Arena gear in general) can be extremely useful in given situations. In Gruul's you have to have a mage tank one of the five ogre councilors, and if you've got 10k health it becomes a lot easier on healers.

That's just one example.

But I would recommend dungeon blues + Spellfire for pure DPS over S1 any day.

Post by Zequel

I've mage-tanked Gruul's a few times with some +hit gear and X of stamina greens I got off AH cheap. You just want around +10% hit or you're gonna get your spell-steal resisted and that can mean your death and a wipe. Would I have preferred using s1 gear? Definitely. But it was a lot easier/faster to go the green route.