Mage stratagy in long fights. Hope this helps.

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Post by elilla

5mans are comparatively different then raids. For those of us in 25's or even in 10's this is just bad to listen to. Not using things like pyro and LB in a raid is a massive loss in your dps, so much so that raid leaders are going to be wondering if you're /afk at the keyboard. Currently I'm sitting at ~1700sp w/30% crit and 220 haste, these days my biggest enemy in raids is the instance server being so laggy I can't dps, or I'm dpsing poorly. Most of the time even in 25's you can get 1-2 trinket uses sometimes 3, but it really depends. An addon like TimeToDie really helps to get your timing down the best, burst dps at the start plus, more dps when MF is up(35%).

There's been one incident I can think of clearly where I nearly pulled aggro on a boss fight and that was on Mr. DDR(Heigan) and that was simply due to the tank not being able to generate enough threat while running and smashing him in the face. Generally tanks are pulling 1-3 times more threat then dps are able to pull, making threat a non issue unless the boss has an aggro dump like Noth.

With regards to mirror image, it's ment to be a temporary aggro dump. Letting you dps harder without fear of pulling aggro, however there is a bug(see manly's posts on EJ) where if you're at 100-105% threat you're able to pull threat and get smashed in the face. So don't push your luck. Use it before you hit 95%.

Now don't forget mana wise, between a ret pally and shadow priest mana it shouldn't be an issue in 25's; in 10's different story. However, it may become an issue if you're getting lots of crits and weaving lots of pyro's. Which is one reason why we're getting the pyromaniac change in 3.08 as well, and I've only seen this once on Loatheb where you've got a 50% crit buff. But regardless of that you need all the dps you can get, and should be intelligently popping gems+pots as needed and beg a druid early for an innervate if need be that way it can be saved for the healers/sp's at 50%.

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Post by elilla

Mana pots are pretty much a no-go for raiding mages. You're either using flamecap at the worst, fire seed or haste pots(I'm sure I'm forgetting something, my mind is fuzzy at 6am). As such, your pot cooldown is already blown. Raiding mages also do not use the evo glyph, if they are, they need a swift smack upside the head and maybe a kick in the butt. I have 21-23k mana raid buffed, and run out once. Generally after a long fight, I'm around 30%.

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Post by Achloryn

You sure?
FFB for all I hear is quite mana-efficient. You shouldn't need to.
Tank threat was buffed through the roof lately. Just spec Burning Soul and be happy.

FFB is VERY mana efficent. I, however, did find myself on the wrong end of Keristrasza in H-Nexus the other day.. I threw 2 scorches, living bomb, 3 FFB, and an instant pyro... out of those 6 casts (not counting living bomb), 5 of them crit (each for about 6.8-7.2k except the scorch) and i pulled threat from the tank, and was dead before the living bomb exploded... I realize this is an ultra rare circumstance, but i was laughing the entire time.

Post by nickseng

RE: Mirror Image.

This was how Mirror Image was supposed to work, threat-wise

When you pop Mirror Image, each image was supposed to inherit 33% of your threat
You get a huge threat reduction, somewhere along the line of - 9 million threat
You get back all the threat you had when Mirror Image ends

Currently though, MI images are bugged and receive 133% of your threat. If you popped MI when you're around 110% threat of the tank, your Images will steal aggro from the tank.

So be careful when you pop it.

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