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Marks Hunter getting owned...by a BM Hunter...
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Post by
xcrunr1647
I have very little trouble with any class 1v1, except BM hunters. Here's how it works:
Casters
: Silencing Shot--->Aimed Shot--->Arcane Shot--->Multi-Shot--->Scatter Shot (for the spell interrupt)--->Aimed Shot--->Arcane Shot
This shot sequence generally allows me to kill any caster I fight, with minor exceptions (damn Locks and their DoTs)
Meleers
: Concussive Shot (hope for a stun proc)--->Serpent Sting--->Aimed Shot--->Arcane Shot--->Scatter Shot--->Multi-Shot--->Wing Clip--->Arcane Shot
Typically, I have little trouble against melee classes with this shot sequence, though the success rate is slightly lower than that against casters.
BM Hunters
: /e grabs his ankles
In more detail, If they pop BW, I get destroyed. If it's on CD, I pwn their face. Hard.
Any suggestions? Should I even bother trying to kill a BM Hunter that pops BW?
Thanks
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Post by
gabo03
Im BM, so yes, BW is amazing, but you need to time it very well to work well, because you, MM hunter, can still do damage to the BM hunter, just you cant stun, fear, or any other spell like that, so try to kite them (advice against me :P), so you can just burn them slowly.
Post by
xcrunr1647
Im BM, so yes, BW is amazing, but you need to time it very well to work well, because you, MM hunter, can still do damage to the BM hunter, just you cant stun, fear, or any other spell like that, so try to kite them (advice against me :P), so you can just burn them slowly.
The problem with kiting them is that I can't seem to keep my eyes off of that big red scary thing that just made a really loud noise and I'm pretty sure is going to eat me if I don't run...
lol...not to mention, if it's a ravager or cat, I can just watch my health fall...
But thanks for the info, I'll try that next time.
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Post by
gabo03
A good trick if big red kitty is on you and the huntard is distracted is to put your pet on the huntard and FD. Kitty will usually auto target the first person to attack the hunter - IE your pet. This wastes valuable BW time.
BTW - to all those huntards that FD right in front of me, I can easily retarget - run behind a hill or something to FD.
Thats a good one
Post by
xcrunr1647
A good trick if big red kitty is on you and the huntard is distracted is to put your pet on the huntard and FD. Kitty will usually auto target the first person to attack the hunter - IE your pet. This wastes valuable BW time.
BTW - to all those huntards that FD right in front of me, I can easily retarget - run behind a hill or something to FD.
Thats a good one
I can't believe I never thought of that. Wow. You just made my day. =D
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Post by
SainType
With the exception of one BM dwarven hunter, I can own any of them as long as I start with full health, if I have lost a quarter of it, I'm good as dead. First when seeing a BM hunter, lay a freeze trap (most don't put their pet into rage until they hit you the first time, and then it is too late (unless your hoard, then a freeze trap works on your raged pet). As the pet charges, use concussion and hope for a stun, follow it is scorpid sting, and move away from the frozen pet. Follow this with anothe concussion and again hope for a stun, with the scorpid sting, arcane shot, and aimed shot. by now your traps should be out of cooldown and lay another freeze trap (that cat is coming back for you).
hit the hunter with a silence, and scorpid sting, arcane shot and aimed shot, if he has not frozen your pet, then charge him and finish him of with a snake trap and melee.
The only one I cannot beat this way, his pat stays in rage for over a minute, and is immune to all attacks while in rage, which is by game machanics impossible, but I have met him over five times, and even arrows, swords, and any for attack come up "Immune". This is a lvl 70 dwarven hunter, with a cat pet, one I have never had issues with before, even with my bat, I could take out any cat out there even before they toned down the elite pets.
First off, let me open by saying walls of text = fail.
Second, I'm fairly certain that you're giving misleading information on at least one, if not ALL of your points.
Beastial Wrath/The Beast Within makes you immune to:
Fear Effects
Stun Effects
Slow Effects
Polymorph Effects
Root Effects
Let's pretend that you get the jump on me.
If you lay a freezing/frost trap, the first thing I'm gonna do is laugh, and think "He probably thinks I'm survival".
The next thing I'm gonna do, is I'm going to pop BW, then start with arcane shots to begin getting rid of your buffs. Then it's on to a viper/serpent sting, based on how much mana you have.
I then follow that with a freezing trap, so I don't have to deal with your pet.
By this point, my pet should be near you. This is where you get scared by the big red MutantKitteh, and try to run. This is also where I pop intimidation, chuckle once again to myself, and then either 1:1 rotation you to death, or get ganked by your rogue friend.
If I get the jump on you:
Same as above, it's a fairly simple strategy.
Keep in mind, that when I pop BW, if the pet is frozen, he gets unfrozen. If he's slowed, he gets unslowed.
Continuing on...
I'd love to know how freezing trap is affected by faction. I really would.
About the dwarf...
You probably got confused while fighting a paladin.
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Post by
SainType
BS here.
When I was BM and I put BW on my pet agasinst an alliance hunter, they became frozen, but you canot an alliance pet, seen it just too many times and know the game is geared to make it easier for the alliance players, I guess because it was meant for the kids. And no, palis don't have big red cats, that cannot be touched while in rage. Of the many I have seen, only one have I encountered like this one cat, and I can do some damage to all of them except this one. I am honestly believing he has a hacked account, I just cannot prove it. I stayed there one time and watched (like the third time I encountered this same dwarf) and that cat stayed in rage for well over two minutes. I wish I had fraps active I would have like to have recorded it, never lost any health in over 2 minutes? It is impossible, but I watched it.
Type that out without it being a wall of text, and I might put forth the effort to read it.
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Post by
Lohr
I don't understand why hunters try to go after other hunters anyway? Unless its the last class alive then ok but why would it be the first you go for? Are you trying to show your epeen? Seriously, each talent has its perks and tbh I'd rather go for a clothie/leather and get my honor then spend time kiting people around for hours (exaggerating) especially when you the same person has the same talent as you it turns out to be a "guessing" game.
Post by
Dolen
Yeah BM hunters are nice but you take zero skill to even kill someone.
You all have said BW and 1:1: rotation. No worries on stun/fear/bind and so on. Almost like a lock, fear dotdotdot.
But once your little easy button win is gone, you are easy kill like stated already.
"OH NO easy button on cool down!" /death
Oh well just my opinion from a Surv. hunter.
Post by
SainType
Yeah BM hunters are nice but you take zero skill to even kill someone.
You all have said BW and 1:1: rotation. No worries on stun/fear/bind and so on. Almost like a lock, fear dotdotdot.
But once your little easy button win is gone, you are easy kill like stated already.
"OH NO easy button on cool down!" /death
Oh well just my opinion from a Surv. hunter.
All I heard was "WAH WAH WAH, I'm gonna cry because I have to push an extra button once in a while."
Oh noes, BW is on CD, whatever will I do?
Oh yeah, the same thing I do every time it's on CD: Use all the other dirty hunter tricks in the book.
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Post by
Kaeria
With the exception of one BM dwarven hunter, I can own any of them as long as I start with full health, if I have lost a quarter of it, I'm good as dead. First when seeing a BM hunter, lay a freeze trap (most don't put their pet into rage until they hit you the first time, and then it is too late (unless your hoard, then a freeze trap works on your raged pet). As the pet charges, use concussion and hope for a stun, follow it is scorpid sting, and move away from the frozen pet. Follow this with anothe concussion and again hope for a stun, with the scorpid sting, arcane shot, and aimed shot. by now your traps should be out of cooldown and lay another freeze trap (that cat is coming back for you).
hit the hunter with a silence, and scorpid sting, arcane shot and aimed shot, if he has not frozen your pet, then charge him and finish him of with a snake trap and melee.
The only one I cannot beat this way, his pat stays in rage for over a minute, and is immune to all attacks while in rage, which is by game machanics impossible, but I have met him over five times, and even arrows, swords, and any for attack come up "Immune". This is a lvl 70 dwarven hunter, with a cat pet, one I have never had issues with before, even with my bat, I could take out any cat out there even before they toned down the elite pets.
First off, let me open by saying walls of text = fail.
Second, I'm fairly certain that you're giving misleading information on at least one, if not ALL of your points.
Beastial Wrath/The Beast Within makes you immune to:
Fear Effects
Stun Effects
Slow Effects
Polymorph Effects
Root Effects
Let's pretend that you get the jump on me.
If you lay a freezing/frost trap, the first thing I'm gonna do is laugh, and think "He probably thinks I'm survival".
The next thing I'm gonna do, is I'm going to pop BW, then start with arcane shots to begin getting rid of your buffs. Then it's on to a viper/serpent sting, based on how much mana you have.
I then follow that with a freezing trap, so I don't have to deal with your pet.
By this point, my pet should be near you. This is where you get scared by the big red MutantKitteh, and try to run. This is also where I pop intimidation, chuckle once again to myself, and then either 1:1 rotation you to death, or get ganked by your rogue friend.
If I get the jump on you:
Same as above, it's a fairly simple strategy.
Keep in mind, that when I pop BW, if the pet is frozen, he gets unfrozen. If he's slowed, he gets unslowed.
Continuing on...
I'd love to know how freezing trap is affected by faction. I really would.
About the dwarf...
You probably got confused while fighting a paladin.
BS here.
When I was BM and I put BW on my pet agasinst an alliance hunter, they became frozen, but you canot an alliance pet, seen it just too many times and know the game is geared to make it easier for the alliance players, I guess because it was meant for the kids. And no, palis don't have big red cats, that cannot be touched while in rage. Of the many I have seen, only one have I encountered like this one cat, and I can do some damage to all of them except this one. I am honestly believing he has a hacked account, I just cannot prove it. I stayed there one time and watched (like the third time I encountered this same dwarf) and that cat stayed in rage for well over two minutes. I wish I had fraps active I would have like to have recorded it, never lost any health in over 2 minutes? It is impossible, but I watched it.
Dakwa, I have no idea were you get these crazy ideas from, but please stay of the drugs from now on. I`m completely sure what you wrote is absolute nonsens.
As SainType said, when a pet gets bestial wrath, he immediatly gets free from the trap or w/e slowing effect he might have. This is not just for the horde (You saying the Horde has better hunter talents alone makes you seem like a total noob), its for both factions.
I strongly advice you to at least learn the hunter basics before you start off giving people advice, cause the strategy you seem to use is absolute nonsens (As SainType already proofed).
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