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Overheating or Software Loop Error?
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Post by
Wanderingfox
nvidia cards have horrible pre-set heat management settings. You need to run an external program to monitor card temps and adjust the fan. For example, my nvidia geforce 8800gt will run at stock fan speed (29%) until it's core breaks 89 degrees Celsius (192 Fahrenheit). This will cause to overheat when under load since it won't ramp the fan up until it's too late. Simply installing riva tuner and setting up fan profiles was enough to keep it under 50c idle and under 90c full load.
As for your current error, try updating the drivers for the card. That sounds like a driver issue to me. Either that or your ATI card is overheating too.
Post by
236yfpjkjhd
If your card overheated with stock settings, then clearly it wasn't Nvidia's fault but rather you having a faulty graphics card.
I can assure you it's not normal operation for Nvidia graphics cards to overheat unless Rivatuner is installed.
As for the original poster's query:
Vista doesn't require directx 9. You only need that if you wish to run the fancypants Aero desktop theme (transparent windows and whatnot). The OS itself will run just fine using whatever PCI VGA junk you've got lying about from the mid-1990s, you'll just miss out on speed and prettyness that's all (and you won't be able to play 3D games of course).
What your friend may have meant by 'software loop' is a particular driver error that tended to crop up at least in the past on Nvidia boards. The result was a "blue screen of death" error, and since the default windows setting is to simply restart as soon as you get a bluescreen, it looked like the PC spontaneously reboots. Sometimes when this happens you can see a blue screen with some white text flash by for an instant before the PC resets.
You can turn off the auto-reset (but not the underlying cause that triggers the bluescreens) by right-clicking "My Computer" and selecting "Properties". Select "Advanced System Settings". In the window that appears, click the settings button under "Startup and Recovery" (the one at the bottom). In the new window, uncheck "Automatically restart". Save settings, and return to the desktop. Now just use your PC normally until it crashes again.
If you get a bluescreen error, write down the error code and when you boot up again, do a web search for that error.
If you don't get any bluescreen, then your problem is most likely with your hardware. Make sure your components are adequately cooled and not clogged with dust, that your chassis isn't too crowded and poorly ventilated and so on. Lots of random PC issues are caused by bad power supplies. Check what model and brand your power supply is, do a web search on it to see what other people have to say about it. The cheaper your PSU was (particulary if stated to be a high-wattage unit), the likely it is it's crap. Certain models by Ultra and Hiper for example are infamous for being terrible.
Post by
Wanderingfox
If your card overheated with stock settings, then clearly it wasn't Nvidia's fault but rather you having a faulty graphics card.
I can assure you it's not normal operation for Nvidia graphics cards to overheat unless Rivatuner is installed.
And your assurance would be completely wrong. Ever since driver revision series 186, the nVidia control panel's 'auto-mode' is very slow to respond to changes in temperature caused by sudden load on the card. This is
especially
true of the original 8800GT series cards as they have poor heatsink design to begin with (they're essentially single width 8800GTS' running on the 9 series chipset), which I specifically mentioned in my post as an example. The 8800GT DOES have a stock fan speed of 29%, and it DOES stay there until the card gets seriously hot.
If you don't believe me, a simple google search for the terms "nvidia stock fan speed overheat" will provide more than enough evidence.
I will, however, concede that this is not nearly as big of an issue on the second generation 9 series cards (9600,9800, etc.) as they changed the stock fan speed to 41% iirc.
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