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Questions About Duel Weild, & Tanking.
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Post by
Fabulous
Currently Level 73,, Liking It.. Duel wielding and going for...
http://www.wowhead.com/?talent=jfV0VZG0exhxdRhoZfMh0xco
Last point i think im gona put in Death Rune Mastery.
to end up like
http://www.wowhead.com/?talent=jfV0VoZG0exhxdRhoZfMh0xco
with that 33% chance my frost/unholy runes end up death runes, i can spam a few more abilities.
ok..
Now a few other questions
Tanking----- I want a Slow/Slow Wep Right ?
-Cause Slow/Slow = Less Parry Parry = Less Pwn 2 My Face?....
DPS---- I Want Slow (Hard) MH / Fast Fast Offhand For Extra Procs Right?
If im incorrent please tell me, and explain reason.
Rotations i use for my spec are currently.
IT -> PS -> Pes -> HoB -> BloodS -> BloodS -> HoB...
9% hit is for my spell cap i think.. "Special Hit Cap"
13% Hit for raids, Cause "Boomkings/ect/ect/ect hit)
Expertise = ?
tryin to make duel wield work..
Wish they would give something like
"One Handed Mastery -- Increases Chance to Hit When Wielding (2) Sword/Axes/Maces By 4/7/10%"
lol
Post by
Wildhorn
If you want to DW Tank, go with:
http://www.wowhead.com/?talent=j0xZGxet0ebRGRVocx0g
(thid build is more for next patch, when cooldown will be removed from Howling Blast)
It is 14% for raid (spell cap is 17% now)
If you DPS, You need enough expertise to reduce chance to dodge by 6%. If you tank, you want 15% (for parry).
Slow main hand/fast offhand (even for tanking, you need procs to hold agro too).
DWing before lvl 80 and having the gears will hurt your DPS hard.
Post by
Fabulous
What you mean procs?...
if im gona be tanking/dps
im tryin to stick to without having to respec,
& Procs..
DPS - MH - Runeforging: Rune of the Fallen Crusader]
OH -
Tanking MH/OH x 2
Or should i be mixing with.
MH -- Runeforging: Rune of Swordbreaking]
OF --
and why do i want a slow mh / fast oh... if my fast oh gona make me parry more cause it misses.
anyone know a good dk duel wield i can look up.
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254110
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Post by
Wildhorn
Tkx n1mnul for these words of love
Yes Merciless combat because when boss gonna be low hp and everybody start to throw away their execute-type ability, you will need extra threat.
No Frost Strike because as a tank, pretty much all your runic power gonna go throu Rune Strike
No Deathchill because you dont need 1 extra crit every 2 minutes to tank, especially when you have Killing Machine.
No Bladed armor because no talent points left for it.
And the 15% to reduce parry is the cap. I said it is what you would like to have. Not what you need to have.
So, M.I-dont-know-#$%^, could you gtfo?
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And about the slow MH and fast OH it is because stuff like Blood-caked blade can proc from offhand (faster = more of them) but will use the MH to determine the damage.
Post by
233584
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Post by
Wildhorn
>You probably was never tanking. I have tons of RP even when spaming Rune Strike. Frost Strike, also, cannot be dodged, blocked or parried.
Yes I tank. And stop to lie that you have tons of RP even when you spam RS. If you use at least 2 rune strike per rune rotation (which should happen if you spam it) you no more have enough for a frost strike. And guess what? Rune strike, also, cannot be dodged, blocked or parried, but will output more damage for half the cost of runic power!
>And again. I, for example, have 11% crit when i have horn up. With Killing Machine it is 5.5% chance to proc. And you're saying there is no need for Deathchill?
>12% more damage after 35% hp. Omg thats a lot of threat.
Ah comon... dont try to be smart. 12% after 35% is way more damage than 1 crit every 2 minutes. So dont laugh at one to praise the other.
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233584
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Post by
Wildhorn
> Ah comon... dont be an idiot. Are we talking about tanking or dps-ing here? IT>PS>Pest->DeathChill->HB = threat goes to the sky on the whole group of mobs. And what if you need to pick up adds, your runes are on cd and you're unable to D&D and DDs needs to aoe them quickly? Yeah, right, DC+HB is right here.
wtf? How can you DC+HB if your runes are on cooldown?
>IT = 15, PS = 10, 2xBS = 20, Oblit = 20. 60 runic power overall. One rotation. You will throw all these in 5-5.5 seconds as the GCD is 1s. After that you have 4.5-5s till your frost rune cd and 5.5-6 till unholy... So, it is 6 seconds average to throw another obliterate. Meaning all this, i have 80 runic power in 11 seconds. What can boss do in 11 sec? 4-5 swings. I have 21% dodge and 29% parry with blade barrier up. It is 2 rune strikes, more is less likely. I have 40 RP left every 11 seconds.
Gratz using 2 runes from your 2nd rune rotation to try to make your number of RP on first rune rotation higher.
With your example, every rune rotation after that, would still only grant 60-65 RP. So no, its not 40 RP left every 11sec. It is 40 RP left the FIRST 11 sec.
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233584
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Post by
Wildhorn
lol... lmao... of course if everything fit your stuff to backup your stuff (like rime procing at the exact time you need it).
So now I will give example where I crit EVERY hit I do. /pwned
I love how you alway go get the next 2 runes of next rotation to increase your RP number. The thing is you wont be using that RP right after these 2 runes. You will use the next 4 runes.
And IT>PS>BS>BS>Ob>6s gap>Ob>
3s gap
>BS>BS->Ob->3s gap->IT->PS is not realistic
Where the hell this 3s gap is coming from?
IT>PS>BS>BS>Ob>6s gap>Ob>BS>BS>Ob>6s gap sound more like reality.
And me too im tired to argue with you with your "everything I need happens when I need it". And I am sorry for you if you have under 50% avoidance. Must not be fun to heal you.
Post by
Sweetscot
As a person with a healer main I am begging you (and anybody else that reads this) don't dual-weild tank. Please! It makes a healer cry...and more than likely leave group and add you to ignore lol
Your threat will be lower and your damage intake will be spiky and hard to heal. There is 0 reason to dw tank. Get a good 2hander, get def capped from other gear (oddly enough pallies got def capped using spellpower weapons and def amounts on gear were alot less liberal at starting level in bc..so don't go there) then rock the heroics.
Post by
Wildhorn
It is all about style baby :P
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