Rogues suck? or is just me...>?

Post by Xrenias

ok, after raiding in wotlk, i see that DK kick ass, paladins also, mage also, hunters also, shamans ench also.... rogues>>> well not on the top 5, sometimes not even on top 10

like me :(

well, look,

me> http://eu.wowarmory.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Ravenholdt&n=Daiyang
and
specc> http://eu.wowarmory.com/character-talents.xml?r=Ravenholdt&n=Daiyang

so, i hope that the answer to my Question ,rogues suck or is just me, i hope is just me..

>>u will have your doubts about my points in tallents... i have my reasons... maybe wrong, but im still on the begining...of wotlk i mean!
>> i see people ,write all the time rotation on raid and blah blah blah... its never that simple, none boss is so simple,! rogues must move almost all the time, to avoid get hit, couse we are melee... all bosses have tactics, tank an spam its on the fairytales now... move here, stay there, run away, take adds, play dead.... and u know... more!
>> why do u choose envenom over evisc,? i think evisc, is better couse : 1. better dmg on cloth, or low armor targets. 2. u dont loose the deadly stacks, and 3. +10% on crit chance from glyph(thats the best). tonigh on satharion raid, heroic, full buffed , i crit 8,5k... pretty good for a tiny gnome huh >? :) never reach this number with envenom... plus, now alot bosse ressist envenom, ~10-20%, sometimes, so its like armor on evisc.! thats why i prefer evisc.

>> the allknown rotation is going good for me, couse i use 1 point on imp. SnD, to keep it up(with glyph ofc), and a rupture glyph to be more relaxed!
>>i use 3/5 on close Q. and 4/5 on rel.strikes, couse i think we need the crit, or else daggers suck!
and 4/5 is pretty good, its 80% on 5combo points ..!
>> focused att. is not so good, only 2 energy per crit. ? only? anyway , i manage to see good number on the fight....

>> all good , but when fight is over, and i think "i kick this boss ass", someone post dmg meters and ................... time stuns still.... a cold tear run and freezes my smile... 15th. OMG...(im usally on top 10)
....sad. just sad!

anyway... i dont wona see rogues on the top(like old times), like mages and DKs, i just wona know that im worth taking on a raid, worth healing, and for one more time ,worth called dps"only" class!

thats it, feel free to say more crap than i did :)

ps. one more question,>> evisc,(or envenom for u), or rupture, or mutil...or something else--> on which one we should use the forgotten ability "cold blood"? (forggoten, couse of the 3min. cod, for one crit hit> omg)

thanx

Post by Aevelynn

For some reason, I find your format impossible to wrap my brain around.

Post by Verelakai

Sounds to me that you need some e-peen enlargement pills.

Post by 211065

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Post by drewidice

For some reason, I find your format impossible to wrap my brain around. Seconded.

Serious post=Serious answers

Post by Arideni

With more practice, a proper talent build, and a lot more execution you may learn to master Mutilate. However, it is not something one can pick up in a week or two. I've been doing it for weeks and am still finding myself in situations where certain timers drop off or a boss encounter throws me out of rotation. Considering all of the encounters where the above can and do play an important part if one's experience, I am surprised you have not figured this out on your own.

Keep at it, you'll learn. Posting here and complaining, obviously without having done proper research to learn how to be better (asking for information instead of digging for information), will not help you out. First, get the mindset. Then get the DPS.

EDIT: The absolute best raiding Mutilate build is listed in the stickies. It's the build I use, and it works well. If you have an issue understanding why majority of people say so-and-so talent is better, then you need to look for answers & ask questions from reputable sources. If you just decide on your own, with literally no evidence, that for example, Eviscerate is better than Envenom, then perhaps you aren't willing to learn. You're just willing to settle for less, and complain about the results.

For the record, Eviscerate competes with damage reduction. With proper talents, Envenom is just as good point for app of Deadly Poison. The special trick is that Envenom ignores armor (it is nature damage). The benefit is that Deadly Poison stacks are constantly ticking and then add up to a high Envenom. At the same time, with proper talents, Deadly Poison is re-applied quickly several seconds after each use. In addition, it refreshes Slice & Dice.

All of these talents work in tandem, and are done in such a particular way, because it has been researched. Of course, all players vary. This is human nature, and our goal is to model the mechanical mathematics in an attempt to adhere to ideal perfection. However, the best we can do is practice what we know. If you aren't willing to listen nor try what you hear, then you aren't willing to get better.

This may have come off sounding rude in some ways, but I am a warrior, a tank, a leader at heart. If you aren't stepping up the challenge, then you need to step out.

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