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Shaman Vs. Rogue
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xmaximx
Seem to get manhandled every time with stunlocks, I am enhancement. You guys got any suggestions?
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Ginkan
You'll probably want to break out the Earthbind / Poison Cleansing / Magma totems ASAP to insure that you don't get raped. The Earthbind will allow you to help kite the Rogue, the Poison Cleansing will get rid of the Rogue's poisons (Notably, Wound / Crippling / Mind-numbing), and the Magma totem will allow you to pull a rogue out of stealth if he ventures too close to you and your totem, as well as adding a little DPS to your fight against the Rogue. Also, save your PvP Trinket for if they get a full-combo point Kidney Shot and/or Blind off, as those are fight-winning abilities that will insure their survival / sucess in a close battle.
Don't be surprised if you get beaten to death repeatedly, Enhancement really isn't fitted properly to beat Rogues to their inherrent high dodge and capability to lock down a target in a Stunlock, as well as having abilities to get one back into a stunlock (Vanish, Blind, etc.).
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Aethir
Spam Shamanistic Rage and pray you can survive long enough to cast it, heal with an item, and hit the rogue hard.
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Grizlor
It's a pretty uphill fight. Best advice would be to save your trinket for kidney shot, keep poison cleansing and earthbind down, and blow fire nova totems. Lightning Shield will give some (albeit small) guaranteed damage while you're stunned.
If you blow your trinket right after a kidney, chances are he won't have any combo points for deadly throw, and your trinket will remove any applications of wound and crippling poison. Hopefully he hasn't blown cloak yet and you can kite him some with frost shock and get a heal or two off.
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Post by
barrex
...the Magma totem will allow you to pull a rogue out of stealth if he ventures too close to you and your totem,
I've been dropping magma totems in battlegrounds, and the rogues are either smart/fast enough to wait between cycles or my totem can't damage what I can't see.
I totally agree with dropping a poison cleansing and earthbind totems then trying to do as much damage as I can.
I am not below burning an anhk
if
the fight was so close I could pop and blast a shock for a kill.
Post by
faia
advice from a rogue(am betrayer lol)
so just as you know.....if I sap you, i already got upper hand
sure you can trinekt out! but thats the trap=)
vanish, and we both lose that we in combat.......not get it?..that mabye because i did just re-sap you.
Sub rogue gone be you nightmare, because they always got a trick in hand or 2 (thx to talent pra) but Sinsterspam/adrenalin spect ...just same tactic as a warrior then...
but how to beat them? well here i give a advice.
destroy the first step he got=) the "Control"
(note many rogue is not skilled but you sure gone meet one )
1.not get saped=game over
2.fire shock(y i know its crappy! but you disable his vanish)
3.get him out of stealth
4. DON'T TRINKET OUT! even how much tempted you are before he used his kidney shot (no not cheap shot that many fail, blind is nice to get away but to help people trinket waste)
5.frost shock(not need to say more, you know full well how much better it work then me , its slow them down=) gife you damn range ect other word you get control and its you turn to play around;D)
another note:stoneclaw totem:P its got chanse to stun if it get it.
nice way to play the "decoy earthbind" if you get the tactic to work (some got macro to target totems^^ so its a bigger chance ) he hit it, he not get why the hell he stun and why not totem is dead and you charging you damn thunder and he smack head in keyboard and think "!@#$"
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Llort
1. Chuck a shield on - no chance ull beat a rogue without this, unless u are very lucky. Call me crazy, but yes, i use my shield a lot, and have even specced Shield Specialization over Ancestral Knowledge
2. Poison Cleansing Totem - essential for getting rid of his poisons, spam it.
3. Charge Lightning Shield - once he pops Evasion, this and ur shocks are really the only ways u .can deal dmg to him.
4. Flame Shock - need to keep this DoT ticking on him all the time to prevent him from stealthing. Flame shock is also less suseptible (spelling?) to resists.
5. Magma Totem - stops him from stealthing and does decent dmg.
6. Stoneskin - taking 43 less dmg doesnt sound like much, but it will help in the long run, speccing for Guardian Totems over Enhancing Totems is worth it.
7. Grace of Air totem or Wrath of Air - I usually use Grace of Air for that bit of dodge, but using Wrath of Air is a much better choice as you are doing most of your dmg through spells.
8. Shamanistic Rage - once the rogue has popped Evasion, pop ur ShammyRage.
9. PvPTrink - i usually wait for that Kidney shot.
Tip: Initially it is useful to stay in Ghost Wolf mode (once ur totems are down and shields are up) so he cant sap you.
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Gorgangio
I do what maka does except instead of Earthbind i pop up stoneskin and pop a shield on. Seeing a rogue hit for less than 100 white damage a piece makes me chuckle ^^
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