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UPDATE FOR 3.3.3
starter gear - affliction spec
. Sta Int Spi SP Hit Crit Haste
Scale Factors 0.0000 0.2236 0.8501 1.4270 1.4974 0.6891 1.1070
Normalized 0.0000 0.1567 0.5957 1.0000 1.0493 0.4829 0.7757
wowhead gear comparison
starter gear - destro spec
. Sta Int Spi SP Hit Crit Haste
Scale Factors 0.0000 0.2732 0.9354 1.3267 2.2259 0.6004 0.8211
Normalized 0.0000 0.2059 0.7051 1.0000 1.6778 0.4526 0.6189
wowhead gear comparison
T10 BiS scale factors
Warlock_T10_55_00_16 Sta=0.0000 Int=0.5641 Spi=1.2500 SP=2.2857 Hit=3.5359 Crit=1.4766 Haste=2.1174
Warlock_T10_56_00_15 Sta=0.0000 Int=0.5434 Spi=1.2660 SP=2.3051 Hit=3.5423 Crit=1.4784 Haste=2.0663
Warlock_T10_00_56_15 Sta=0.2864 Int=0.6034 Spi=1.3329 SP=2.0455 Hit=4.2627 Crit=1.3815 Haste=1.5840
Warlock_T10_00_13_58 Sta=0.0000 Int=0.8232 Spi=0.9316 SP=2.1339 Hit=5.5129 Crit=1.4673 Haste=1.4573
Warlock_T10_00_18_53 Sta=0.0000 Int=0.6531 Spi=0.9287 SP=2.1192 Hit=5.3954 Crit=1.4179 Haste=1.1847
note: normal disclaimer applies. YMMV. this is a guide only. please sim your own characters.
My Affliction numbers 4.0:
Spell Power 0.74
Hit Rating 1.20
Mastery Rating 0.63
Haste Rating 0.79
Crit Rating 0.50
those numbers are useless without details.
personalised numbers have a very limited scope at the best of times (even a BiS profile's weights) but without details such as your
, rotation/priorities, glyphs, gear point, gemming (to name but a few) they are utterly meaningless.
this is all before even questioning the accuracy of the numbers themselves. what tool did you use to get these numbers? how well developed is that tool since all the changes to 4.0.1?
First attempt to do this right, as per anything from Asakawa, normal disclaimer applies, as well as the fact that I could be very wrong :D
Profile's have been linked, but are in simulationCraft style, not pretty (and easy to see) WoWhead format. I may create some for it one day.
I didn't generate these numbers myself
Out of laziness I've not posted the talent specs (this may change), these are all standard spec's, so you should be able to find them elsewhere in the stickies! Affdrain drops 1 point from bane and puts it into Dark Arts, giving 31/1/9.
Warlock_AffDrain_PreRaid Sta=0.0210 Int=2.9575 SP=2.4125 Hit=1.5932 Crit=0.9539 Haste=1.3432 Mastery=1.1446
Warlock_Affliction_PreRaid Sta=0.0262 Int=2.9937 SP=2.4187 Hit=1.5690 Crit=0.9617 Haste=1.2767 Mastery=0.9037
Warlock_Demonology_PreRaid Sta=0.0143 Int=2.7482 SP=2.1689 Hit=1.7373 Crit=0.9636 Haste=1.1088 Mastery=0.8584
Warlock_Destruction_PreRaid Sta=0.0277 Int=2.9303 SP=2.2436 Hit=1.8705 Crit=1.0107 Haste=1.0458 Mastery=0.8497
Also didn't post BiS, because not much changes, if you actually use the values in formulae, you've probably got it from somewhere else anyway. The only notable difference is that Mastery goes above Haste when using BiS for AffDrain... questionable whether players can actually make use of that extra 0.3...
fair stuff to post but
a simple link
gives all the same info and more.
the aim was usually to work out a starter set for fresh 80s. the pre-raid set currently used by EJ is far closer to this idea of a starter set than we'll see again as we move into future tiers but it's still a list of best in slot gear, just "BiS without setting foot in a raid" and we all know that the set can take time to put together.
i have no idea if wowhead uses the info presented in these threads since there's never been a follow up from malgayne so it's difficult to know if the idea is still to create info that will be most useful for wowheads default weights or if we're just supposed to make info that's useful for readers of this thread.
however, if we want to make info for wowhead's stat weights then we ought to come up with a reasonable starter set using wowhead's profile system and gather weights from that. this can be a group effort, i'm not saying any specifically ought to go and make it.
I wasn't sure what the rules are like with regards to linking to other sites like EJ.
I was just looking to update a thread that has quite old numbers, such as the significant weight on spirit. Since not everybody will put the effort in to read anything but the numbers here :)
yeah understood. i'm not putting your post down at all just wondering if we can fine tune the info a bit to be most relevant to wowhead's needs - whether that be its default weights or just informing people.
With patch 4.1 just around the corner I thought I'd start work on some stat weights for new Warlocks looking to start raiding.
I made up a profile with only item level 346 gear that can be obtained with Justice Points, from Reputation vendors or from Heroic dungeons. I haven't used even the relatively easily obtainable (crafted) epic quality gear but it is a well balanced and Hit capped set that would be time-consuming to collect so it probably evens out overall.
The idea is to get a general idea of the relative weights for the different specs at good blue quality gear level and, as ever, I strongly urge anyone looking for specific or accurate data to use Simulationcraft themselves.
These are 4.1 (currently PTR) numbers!
Scale Factors 0.0000 2.7145 2.1282 1.5238 0.8879 0.8748 1.0166
Normalized 0.0000 1.0000 0.7840 0.5614 0.3271 0.3223 0.3745
Scale Factors 0.0000 2.7982 2.2000 1.6016 0.8866 1.1438 0.8042
Normalized 0.0000 1.0000 0.7862 0.5724 0.3169 0.4088 0.2874
Affliction - SB
Scale Factors 0.0000 2.9115 2.3381 1.2986 0.9019 1.1150 0.7125
Normalized 0.0000 1.0000 0.8030 0.4460 0.3098 0.3830 0.2447
Affliction - Drain
Scale Factors 0.0000 3.0368 2.4375 1.2654 1.0036 1.0990 0.9454
Normalized 0.0000 1.0000 0.8027 0.4167 0.3305 0.3619 0.3113
BiS stat weights for reference:
Int SP Hit Crit Haste Mastery
AffDrain_T11_359_PTR 3.2180 2.5176 1.7816 1.2152 1.3696 1.0367
AffDrain_T11_372_PTR 3.3616 2.6421 1.9833 1.3267 1.4029 1.2137
Affliction_T11_359_PTR 3.1278 2.4991 1.7165 1.1305 1.3472 0.8621
Affliction_T11_372_PTR 3.2781 2.5878 1.9391 1.2908 1.4997 0.9855
Demonology_T11_359_PTR 2.8564 2.2350 2.0756 1.0934 1.1267 1.2023
Demonology_T11_372_PTR 2.9974 2.3628 2.3271 1.1955 1.1183 1.3699
Destruction_T11_359_PTR 2.9993 2.3045 2.1277 1.0963 1.3032 0.9844
Destruction_T11_372_PTR 3.1103 2.4173 2.4708 1.2068 1.4148 1.1100
I think it would also be interesting to also add a section mentioning which pets you should use for example, as demo.
Out of curiosity asakawa, has the mastery become a better stat for firelands gear level?
Kinda like mastery becoming a tad better than haste from 359 to 372 for demo.
edit: correction on spec mentioning
Well, it looks like Haste is stronger than Mastery when using the T12heroic BiS set that EJ's using.
Oh well, seems like afflic gotta stick with haste and crit. I really like it but I wish mastery would be more meaningful, with so many dots it could be way better.
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