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Post by
GVHB
I still think that Garrosh's decision was fueled more with kicking Alliance asses that with helping the orc naval fleet (he doesn't even mention the ships).
Post by
taurenmoo812
I still think that Garrosh's decision was fueled more with kicking Alliance asses that with helping the orc naval fleet (he doesn't even mention the ships).
yup
Post by
Adamsm
I still think that Garrosh's decision was fueled more with kicking Alliance asses that with helping the orc naval fleet (he doesn't even mention the ships).
It's the way the character is written; of course, any war leader of the Horde would have responded the same to the sudden appearance of an enemy fleet... the fact that the Dragon responsible for tearing apart the world suddenly showing up would have been a bad surprise to both sides.
And as I know what's coming next: Thrall can't see the future, neither can Saurfang, so they would have been caught just as flat footed as Garrosh was...Also: If Deathwing is going to %^&* up your fleet of Airships, there's not a damn thing you can do about, even for someone like Thrall.
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Post by
Adamsm
even for someone like Thrall.
Or Garrosh's escort. That Dragon raid would have destroyed all of the Air Fleet if Garrosh hadn't sent them at the allies.
Heh, aye.
Post by
taurenmoo812
even for someone like Thrall.
Or Garrosh's escort. That Dragon raid would have destroyed all of the Air Fleet if Garrosh hadn't sent them at the allies.
Heh, aye.
oh so now whos basing something on assumption then?
Post by
Adamsm
.....Okay, now your just trying to pick a fight. Seriously; Dragon bigger then the ships with a body covered by adamantite plates.... yeah, of course the ships would win.
Of course, not really an assumption in this case: Second War proves that Ship vs Dragon, ship loses every time.
Post by
taurenmoo812
.....Okay, now your just trying to pick a fight. Seriously; Dragon bigger then the ships with a body covered by adamantite plates.... yeah, of course the ships would win.
Of course, not really an assumption in this case: Second War proves that Ship vs Dragon, ship loses every time.
Actully, it is assumption, since without anything to prove that a group of dragons against a group of horde airships, along with whatever was on those ships, mages, warlocks, and the weaponry, could have stood against them.
True it might have destoryed the entire fleet, but then it might not have. To say otherwise to a supposed situation is only ever gonna be based on one sided arguments. Fact was, don't know if the fleet would have been destroyed said dragons.
And as far as I saw, Deathwing wasn't in that fight, this is the senario of saying if the fleet had not attacked the alliance if they would have held against the black dragons attacking them.
Post by
Adamsm
....And the irony of his post? That's not lost on anyone else right? I mean come on... really; you realize every single thing your saying there contradicts... well, every single so called piece of evidence you have that Garrosh is evil; your doing the same thing your accusing me of doing. Seriously, just can't take you seriously anymore; you could make a garden grow nice and big with the stuff spewing from your mouth lately.
On topic: Dragons bad. Ships brittle. Dragon vs Ships; nothing but ruins, seen in the other wars. Garrosh may not be Mensa, but if he hadn't of gone for the Alliance fleet, he probably would have lost everything in one swoop to Deathwing's Dragons.
Post by
GVHB
Although it is an hypothetical situation, the most likely outcome for the dragons vs. Horde air fleet would be the dragons completely destroying the air fleet regardless of the fighters being present.
Post by
taurenmoo812
Although it is an hypothetical situation, the most likely outcome for the dragons vs. Horde air fleet would be the dragons completely destroying the air fleet regardless of the fighters being present.
Unless it was a boss fight with epix at the end of it /eyeroll
Actully this reminds me of the scene from final fantasy 9 entering Memoria where a few airships took on an entire sky full of dragons. Different game and genre, but in a situation where the fleet is set to make it to where its meant to, the airships would have made it. The story was designed that they wouldn't, but if they were to, it have like some powerful figures taking down the dragons and boom, sorted.
but because Garrosh sent the fleet away, and there was only this situation of having 3 ships and an army of black dragons, it was only ever gonna go one way.
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Adamsm
Actully this reminds me of the scene from final fantasy 9 entering Memoria where a few airships took on an entire sky full of dragons. Different game and genre, but in a situation where the fleet is set to make it to where its meant to, the airships would have made it. The story was designed that they wouldn't, but if they were to, it have like some powerful figures taking down the dragons and boom, sorted....A few airships? It was the entire Lindblum, Alexandria, the Black Mage village and the Genomes fleets; and even then, they weren't trying to beat the assaulting White Dragons, they were just providing cover so that the Heroes Airship could go through the Memoria portal.
Here; to refresh you.
Assault on Memoria: White Dragons.
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Post by
Skreeran
Why are we arguing about this?
Tauren doesn't like Garrosh. Adams thinks he's okay.
I still don't much like him.
But you two are arguing about what might have hypothetically happened in an event that we don't even have all the information on. We don't know what would have happened if Garrosh had kept the airships around, and we never, ever, ever will.
Stop arguing about it.
Post by
taurenmoo812
Actully this reminds me of the scene from final fantasy 9 entering Memoria where a few airships took on an entire sky full of dragons. Different game and genre, but in a situation where the fleet is set to make it to where its meant to, the airships would have made it. The story was designed that they wouldn't, but if they were to, it have like some powerful figures taking down the dragons and boom, sorted....A few airships? It was the entire Lindblum, Alexandria, the Black Mage village and the Genomes fleets; and even then, they weren't trying to beat the assaulting White Dragons, they were just providing cover so that the Heroes Airship could go through the Memoria portal.
Here; to refresh you.
Assault on Memoria: White Dragons.
,
Point being, compared to the massive number of white dragons, the airships didn't lose.
Post by
taurenmoo812
Why are we arguing about this?
Tauren doesn't like Garrosh. Adams thinks he's okay.
I still don't much like him.
But you two are arguing about what might have hypothetically happened in an event that we don't even have all the information on. We don't know what would have happened if Garrosh had kept the airships around, and we never, ever, ever will.
Stop arguing about it.
Since your back Skree, was wondering about that thing about Drek'thar. Like say I know he doesn't want anything to do with the forsaken anymore, but it sounded like you said he was packing it all in with the horde? Whats up with that?
Post by
Adamsm
Point of that: To quote Cid: Break a path through for the Invincible! After that, the ships fled seeing as when you leave Memoria after taking down the last boss, the ships are gone, and there is wreckage around. Of course, after that point, Zidane goes into the roots to save Kuja.. but that's not really the here or there.
If your going to make a reference to something, should have went with the Virages at the end of Legend of Dragoon: Even as the Moon was being destroyed, the heroes were still winning against several hundred thousand of the massive monsters.
Beat FF9 10 times, I know the event and the ending off by heart.
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