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Post by
Monday
Also, you still didn't cite your crap about Metzen.
Post by
taurenmoo812
I was under the impression he was horribly saddened by it.
Also, you still didn't cite your crap about Metzen.
Try rereading the book, the only 'sadness' was for himself.
And why do I need to mark up what metzen said because you didn't see it. Go watch the video yourself.
Then again based on your opinion of garrosh from the shattering, interpretation of whatever metzen said would likely come out different there too.
Post by
Monday
I never read the book, I'm going by what we see in Cata.
And why do I need to mark up what metzen said because you didn't see it. Go watch the video yourself.
Because forum etiquette states that if you're making a point, you have to provide the examples, not make somebody else go prove you right. Prove me wrong, then we'll talk.
Also: Also, you still didn't cite your crap about Metzen.
Post by
Adamsm
I can see theres nothing in arguing the point with you.Wow, hate to say it again for like the 10th time but....Irony, thy name is Taurenmoo.
whatever, I stand by my conviction the same as you do.
Except, the irony there is.....your accusing Funden of the same crap you pull all the time, but I'm guessing the irony is lost on you.
But hey, whatever works.
Post by
taurenmoo812
I never read the book, I'm going by what we see in Cata.
And why do I need to mark up what metzen said because you didn't see it. Go watch the video yourself.
Because forum etiquette states that if you're making a point, you have to provide the examples, not make somebody else go prove you right. Prove me wrong, then we'll talk.
Also: Also, you still didn't cite your crap about Metzen.
in which case the argument you have against what was said in the book is flawed, its more relavent then anything on this subject, yet you haven't read it and still try to throw your weight into what was in the book. Now whos sad?
So your criticizing me on not linking what metzen said in that video that Anyone can go find, and yet your trying to join an argument about a piece of the lore you haven't even read? this is ridiculous..
Post by
Monday
in which case the argument you have against what was said in the book is flawed, its more relavent then anything on this subject, yet you haven't read it and still try to throw your weight into what was in the book. Now whos sad?
You are. I never mentioned the book. You're the one that went into retarded mode and said I did.
So your criticizing me on not linking what metzen said in that video that Anyone can go find, and yet your trying to join an argument about a piece of the lore you haven't even read? this is ridiculous..
Show me. Be a good person instead of a trolling @#$%^&bag.
Owait.
E: Just so you know, it is possible to talk about Garrosh without the book. Why? Because Garrosh in Cataclysm > Garrosh in book, because Garrosh in Catacylsm is later, and thus more recent, than the Garrosh in book.
Post by
taurenmoo812
Show me. Be a good person instead of a trolling @#$%^&bag.
Owait.
Funny, you and Adams live together? Both resorting to childish name calling as a last resort?
I'm arguing with a guy that hasn't even bothered to read the lore to the subject in question and claiming to know enough about it, and another guy who lives on theres forums.
btw, the citation your asking for, IS THE THE BOOK! Go read it and then maybe you can throw some weight into this.
Post by
Adamsm
Tauren, stop picking fights.
Post by
Monday
So Metzen in the book says that Garrosh sucks?
What?
Funny, you and Adams live together? Both resorting to childish name calling as a last resort?
Funny, you a hypocrite? I'm insulting you because you CANNOT FREAKING USE THAT ORGAN IN YOUR HEAD CALLED A BRAIN.
I said, cite where a woman asks Metzen about Garrosh, and he (Metzen) says that Garrosh sucks. That's in the book?
lolwut?
E: Especially since you said it was a video. Who puts videos in books?
Post by
GVHB
Eh, not everyone have a The Shattering book at their disposal so posting the quote would help the argument. Just saying.
Post by
Monday
Eh, not everyone have a The Shattering book at their disposal so posting the quote would help the argument. Just saying.
Aye. I don't want to go pay $28 + tax for it.
If I could get it in paperback I would. But, as it is, I can only get it in hardback. And however good a book may be, I won't spend ~$30 on one.
Post by
GVHB
Here
at 4:08 more or less is the question about Garrosh and Metzen's answer to it.
Post by
Adamsm
Oh and Tauren, I've only ever called you an R-tard once; but you, on your rampant love for Thrall and your desire to make Garrosh, Varian or anyone you hate and those who like the characters seem like morons, idiots, and jack asses, have insulted them time and again, or are you forgetting about your...'discussions' with Darkton, where you constantly called him names?
Grow the hell up before you start throwing stones at people, as your not some perfect person by any shape or form, same as every single other poster on this forum.
Post by
Monday
Ty GVHB =D
As it is, I listened to it, and I don't see where he said don't get attached to Garrosh. Metzen said he "works in tandem" with Thrall. That doesn't necessarily mean opposite off Thrall.
Just sayin'.
Post by
GVHB
Metzen said that we shouldn't get "fixated" on Garrosh because, in the end, the story revolves around Thrall and how he evolves after leaving the Horde (during his training at Nagrand and afterwards) but doesn't mean that Garrosh is supposed to be become a bad leader for the Horde and we will need to put him down. It just mean that he is different from Thrall and can be a competent Warchief.
Post by
Adamsm
Metzen said that we shouldn't get "fixated" on Garrosh because, in the end, the story revolves around Thrall and how he evolves after leaving the Horde (during his training at Nagrand and afterwards) but doesn't mean that Garrosh is supposed to be become a bad leader for the Horde and we will need to put him down. It just mean that he is different from Thrall and can be a competent Warchief.
Well to the normal person it does....to a fanboi who hates the fact that his
special guy
left the Faction well.....
I'm sorry Gnub, I couldn't resist.
Post by
taurenmoo812
It just mean that he is different from Thrall and can be a competent Warchief
He didn't actully say he could be a competent warchief either.(##RESPBREAK##)8##DELIM##Gryphon##DELIM##
Post by
GVHB
He didn't say that he would screw it up either and turn the horde back into what it was under Blackhand. We'll have to wait and see how Garrosh develops as a character.
Post by
Monday
It just mean that he is different from Thrall and can be a competent Warchief
He didn't actully say he could be a competent warchief either.
So? It seems much more likely considering what we see in
current Cataclysm lore
than him being a horrible $%^&*!bag who goes and murders everyone.
Shocking, but, /gasp, characters change. And just because you don't like a character doesn't mean he's the literal incarnation of the devil.(##RESPBREAK##)8##DELIM##Gryphon##DELIM##
Post by
taurenmoo812
So? It seems much more likely considering what we see in current Cataclysm lore than him being a horrible $%^&*!bag who goes and murders everyone.
Shocking, but, /gasp, characters change. And just because you don't like a character doesn't mean he's the literal incarnation of the devil.
I do love when the young over exaggerate things said to them.
Have I ever said he's evil, or the devil? Funny, reading back though it all I never once made that sentiment. But is he a good leader and able to develop into something better.. no, I don't see it happening. Infact I believe he will stay this way as a mark of how the horde's gone down a dark path. Seeing character development when theres very little of it, for a badly drawn out character at that, becomes wishful thinking.
But then /gasp!, you haven't actully read up on any of this have you, your arguments are about as applicable as an anti christian claiming the bibles a work of evil yet not even having picked it up.
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