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Top three PVP classes at the moment?
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goshadstep2lose
nice triple post
I'd also love for you to point out what my, or anyone's class has too do with the arguments presented
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Monday
Wow, what a nice little pyrotechnics display we've got here (a nice triple whammy too).
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goshadstep2lose
#1 warrior no question at all- they have MS which rogues and hunters have but are not limited by mana rogues don't have mana...
and if hunters MS is being limited by mana they are doing something wrong
a warrior has a more powerfl MS but it has nothing to do with resources
(plate just gives a crap load more hp for no reason also) except that it doesnt
#2 druid but very close to warrior- you cant dispel cyclone. it has no cooldown. they have mostly instant cast heals and are impossible to snare so they can pillar hump until your subscription runs out or their warrior partner skillstorms you i forgot how you had to be a druid to pillar hump
but seriously- QQing about restos right now gets your post automatic disregard
Post by
Gone
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Skill > Class
END
WRONG
ever see a skilled rogue vs an average prot pally?
how about a skilled lock vs an average dk?
a skilled fire mage (lol as if) vs an average rogue?
skill plays a big part, but there are certin classes that just present a HUGE advantage against other classes regardless of skill.
to answer the original question the top 3 classes IMO are as follows
1) Paladin, yes i said it we all know its true, theres a reason pvp servers are flooded with them, if you go prot or ret (i personaly play prot as ret was never really my thing) then youll kill most other melee classes and do decent against ranged except for locks, forst mages, and priests. and if you lvl engineering and your really good, you can probobly take locks off that list. and weve all seen the holy paladin in a bg with 3 dps on it staying consistantly at 90% or higher, nuff said.
2) Mage. the thing i like so much about mages, particularly frost mages, if that you will always have some kind of trick up your sleeve (blink, nova, iceblock, frost barrier, mana barrier, stealth, cold snap). indeed it sometimes seem liek frost mages have more defensive cooldowns than most tanks. if you roll frost then you will prettymuch faceroll any melee except the most badass of enhancement shamans, and as arcane you can kill healers and rank about middle of the ranged vs ranged ladder.
3) Druids. now when i say this i mean as a class whole, not any individual spec, we all know that bear<prot pally, cat<rogue, boomy<ele shaman, tree<dpriest. but the thing is as a druid, you have a lot of options, and between all the specs/builds some form of druid or another can kill any other class/spec in the game. while each spec may only be the second best at what it dose, theres still enough to choose from to be a weakness to more or less anything in teh game. while a paladin may kill a cat, it wont be able to kil a tree, while an arms warrior can take out a tree, it will fall short to a tank-pvp bear, ect.
anyway those are my top three, bear in mind its just my opinion, im sure tehre are people that disagree, and yes all the classes i mentioned will lose against something or other, the game is designed on a rock paper scisor system, and thats just the way it is
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goshadstep2lose
WRONG
ever see a skilled rogue vs an average prot pally?
how about a skilled lock vs an average dk?
a skilled fire mage (lol as if) vs an average rogue?
skill plays a big part, but there are certin classes that just present a HUGE advantage against other classes regardless of skill. welcome to counter classes
its key to having successful PvP in an MMO
also: Im pretty sure dks don't counter locks that hard anymore
Paladin, yes i said it we all know its true oh god! thank you for finally saying it! everyone else was too afraid to do it!
you've done your part sir, no need to ever post again
theres a reason pvp servers are flooded with themarbitrary anecdotal arbitration is anecdotal
if you go prot or ret (i personaly play prot as ret was never really my thing) then youll kill most other melee classes and do decent against ranged except for locks, forst mages, and priests and hunters and elementals and... you know what? its just safer to say they do poorly against all range fixed
and if you lvl engineering and your
really good
, you can probobly take locks off that list. bolded the key
so this one time, at band camp, i saw a healer in a bg with 3 dps on it staying consistantly at 90% or higher, therefor that healer is OP and those 3 dps need a buff! edited for clarity
if you roll frost then you will prettymuch faceroll any melee except the most badass of enhancement shamans seriously... when you were righting the first draft of this post did you just insert a bunch of <insert random class here>'s and come back later to fill them with classes you pulled from a hat?
and as arcane you can kill healers and rank about middle of the ranged vs ranged ladder.pro tip: frost is much better at killing healers than arcane
we all know that bear<prot pally, cat<rogue, boomy<ele shaman, tree<dpriest. seriously... when you were righting the first draft of this post did you just insert a bunch of <insert random class here>'s and come back later to fill them with classes you pulled from a hat?
but the thing is as a druid, you have a lot of options, and between all the specs/builds some form of druid or another can kill any other class/spec in the game. i guess thats why you have a 2200 druid right?
while each spec may only be the second best at what it dose, but you literally
just
said otherwise
while a paladin may kill a cat, it wont be able to kil a tree, while an arms warrior can take out a tree, it will fall short to a tank-pvp bear, ect. yea, good thing blizzard allows you to switch between your 3 trees at will in BGs and arenas if you pick a druid
that
is
op bro
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Caperon
that
is
op bro
sry when you try to be an cool internet dude and generalize so much you look like a troll
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424512
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Caperon
Its boomie
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ele shaman, duh.
L2P.
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Post by
goshadstep2lose
that
is
op bro
sry when you try to be an cool internet dude and generalize so much you look like a troll
doh
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goshadstep2lose
Maybe the discussion would be more productive if people said why they had trouble with certain classes, and why they found other classes more simple. Somethinglikeatheese
thats the problem though
peoples biased opinions are irrelevant to what the top pvp classes actually are
people can scream "deathknights, druids, and mages!" all they want
they remain priests, (holy) pallies, and warlocks
this thread should have ended over a week ago
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Gone
WRONG
ever see a skilled rogue vs an average prot pally?
how about a skilled lock vs an average dk?
a skilled fire mage (lol as if) vs an average rogue?
skill plays a big part, but there are certin classes that just present a HUGE advantage against other classes regardless of skill. welcome to counter classes
its key to having successful PvP in an MMO
also: Im pretty sure dks don't counter locks that hard anymore
Paladin, yes i said it we all know its true oh god! thank you for finally saying it! everyone else was too afraid to do it!
you've done your part sir, no need to ever post again
theres a reason pvp servers are flooded with themarbitrary anecdotal arbitration is anecdotal
if you go prot or ret (i personaly play prot as ret was never really my thing) then youll kill most other melee classes and do decent against ranged except for locks, forst mages, and priests and hunters and elementals and... you know what? its just safer to say they do poorly against all range fixed
and if you lvl engineering and your
really good
, you can probobly take locks off that list. bolded the key
so this one time, at band camp, i saw a healer in a bg with 3 dps on it staying consistantly at 90% or higher, therefor that healer is OP and those 3 dps need a buff! edited for clarity
if you roll frost then you will prettymuch faceroll any melee except the most badass of enhancement shamans seriously... when you were righting the first draft of this post did you just insert a bunch of <insert random class here>'s and come back later to fill them with classes you pulled from a hat?
and as arcane you can kill healers and rank about middle of the ranged vs ranged ladder.pro tip: frost is much better at killing healers than arcane
we all know that bear<prot pally, cat<rogue, boomy<ele shaman, tree<dpriest. seriously... when you were righting the first draft of this post did you just insert a bunch of <insert random class here>'s and come back later to fill them with classes you pulled from a hat?
but the thing is as a druid, you have a lot of options, and between all the specs/builds some form of druid or another can kill any other class/spec in the game. i guess thats why you have a 2200 druid right?
while each spec may only be the second best at what it dose, but you literally
just
said otherwise
while a paladin may kill a cat, it wont be able to kil a tree, while an arms warrior can take out a tree, it will fall short to a tank-pvp bear, ect. yea, good thing blizzard allows you to switch between your 3 trees at will in BGs and arenas if you pick a druid
that
is
op bro
ok 1) i said this was my opinion, obviously you have a different one, im guessing somewhere in that post i critisezed one of the classes you no doubt spent the last year of your life on and now your taking that as a personal insult
2) "first draft"? who makes drafts of $%^& they post on the internet? seriously? i just wrote what i was thinking
3) you seem to be saying that several of the clas spoints i made were not true, yes frost mages kill most melee pretty well, especialy now that prot warriors warbringer talent was nerfed, enhancement shamans are the only melee class with a really effective counter, being spirit walk, frozen power talent is nice, the only class with a ranged interupt, earthen power, purge, ect. if you disagree then thats great for you.
4) as for teh druid thing, i dont beleive i ever said you can switch between trees in a bg, in fact i said the oposite of that, i said that there is NO unbeatable class, but as a druid depending on what you want to beat, or what team comp your using, or who your playing with, you can choose a good spec ahead of time.
5) im not gonna disect your entire post and respond to each point like you did with mine, i think you can figure out what points im responding to.
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goshadstep2lose
ok 1) i said this was my opinion, obviously you have a different one, im guessing somewhere in that post i critisezed one of the classes you no doubt spent the last year of your life on and now your taking that as a personal insult no insult, but your biases and stupidity offend me
2) "first draft"? who makes drafts of $%^& they post on the internet? seriously? i just wrote what i was thinking
woooooosh
3) you seem to be saying that several of the clas spoints i made were not true, yes frost mages kill most melee pretty well, especialy now that prot warriors warbringer talent was nerfed, enhancement shamans are the only melee class with a really effective counter, being spirit walk, frozen power talent is nice, the only class with a ranged interupt, earthen power, purge, ect. if you disagree then thats great for you. and none of those things are enhancement shaman specific
its not that I disagree, its that you are just wrong
4) as for teh druid thing, i dont beleive i ever said you can switch between trees in a bg, in fact i said the oposite of that, i said that there is NO unbeatable class, but as a druid depending on what you want to beat, or what team comp your using, or who your playing with, you can choose a good spec ahead of time.
and the same thing remains true for every player with a dual spec
Post by
goshadstep2lose
uh oh.. i c shammies in there...
edit: well, in the top 3, shammies are in 2 of them, warrior, mage and hunter in one...
does this have any bearing on the top 3 classes as contributed to rating being subject to partner(s)?
your doing it wrong
presence of a class in one successful comp does not infer overall success in PvP
there are different brackets
and those specs are likely dependent on the comp
a rogue can run well with a mage and/or a healer, the mage on the other hand can run well with any caster and multiple healers
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