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Post by Dragonzero

ummm ... what i found for next patch ....
http://www.worldofwarcraft.com/patchnotes/test-realm-patchnotes.html

Paladin:

* Avenging Wrath: Divine Shield, Divine Protection, and Hand of Protection, and Avenging Wrath cannot be used within 30 seconds of each other anymore. Forbearance removed from Avenging Wrath.
> * Divine Protection: The penalty has been removed.
> * Divine Shield: The penalty has been changed so that all damage done is reduced by 50% in place of an attack speed penalty.
* Hand of Reckoning(NEW): Available on trainers at level 16. It’s a 30 yard range taunt that causes Holy damage.
* Judgements of the Pure: This Holy talent now increases the damage done by Seals and Judgements.
* Judgement of Wisdom: Now returns a percentage of base mana instead of a percentage of max mana.
* Sacred Duty: Interaction with Divine Shield and Divine Protection removed, but stamina bonus increased.

so where the bubble to imumme all attack and spell? see that right arrow and they remove divine protection then replace to divine shield.

now it going be hard for pvp hehe

Post by Udun

Divine Shield now:

Protects the paladin from all damage and spells for 12 sec, but increases the time between her attacks by 100%.

Divine Shield then:

Protects the paladin from all damage and spells for 12 sec, but reduces all damage done by 50%.

Sacred Duty will no longer have anything to do with the bubbles.

Edit: Ergo, it's a buff, not a nerf.

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Post by Dragonzero

Look like play fair .. i think blizz tired of hearing about ret pally from ppls then start remove bubble.

i guess it time to be even or learn another new way to stay alive for pvp.....

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Post by Lightrain

That is totally a nerf.

DS, CS, and judgement inside a bubble has no effect against them when you are 50% attack speed.

MAJOR nerf when they now do 50% damage while bubbled.

Also, it's nerfing the kill caster, bubble, BoP partner, heal up routine that we abused last season. If you don't see the nerf, idk what you are reading....

The 50% damage is what kills me. Then to throw in ZERO int on gear, and we can't chain bubble and BoP. This is like, taking half of the 2v2 survivability, and then nerfing our burst for 10 seconds.

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Post by Lightrain

Oh yeah. I remember seeing that. Thanks for reminding me.

I'm still not sure what this is about then, other than the 30 sec timer for AW after bubble or vice versa. It doesn't say they are removing fobearance from bubble effects.

That and nerfing my burst while I'm bubbled.

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Post by Spinky

Yeah, Udun is right and now people will PvP hate more. Not that my Tankadin is really used for PvP much anyway. When it was, my bubble wasn't about dealing damage from under it anyway. (Probably because I'm a PvP noob, I know...)

I'm actually more $%^&ed that I can't bubble myself and then HoP the healer if I lose aggro while bubbled... I guess that's what the new HoR is for, right?

you will still be able to hop others, just not yourself.

Post by blademeld

It's not a nerf for protection paladin PvE, it is a nerf for retribution paladin PvE.

I'm not sure how it effects PvP completely, but I'm assuming this was done to balance out retribution PvP.

Post by Moggit

This always comes up.

Basically, the damage done by you is reduced by 50%. This was done as ages ago, pallys only really had auto attack (Yes i remember those days :'( so a 100% increase speed on your weapon attack did hurt you. However now pallys have instants so they can go around in 'God mode' and kill people while being immune. It went from a defensive skill to an offensive skill. SOmething blizz didn't want

Obviously this is a nerf to ret pallis the most. Also Hand of freedom can be used on a friendly played after you've bubbled. It just means if you avenging wrath, you cant use it on yourself for 30 seconds.

Sorry if you already know this but some dont and continue to keep asking about it :)

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