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Comment by frmorrison

Too bad this doesn't have any melee stats, but its top end damage and speed is very nice for Ret. Even though the caster stats barely help Ret, this weapon is one of the best in-game until level 66 because of its damage/speed.

This item has a unique model that can be used for transmogrification.

Comment by greengoo

One of the top Paladin PvP 2H'ers in the game.

Comment by ilovemrdoe

I looked at the stats and thought, hmm, isn't that a bit low +healing for naxx?. Then I saw the dps and weapon damage. Ouch.

Comment by thebrassthief

This is a pretty sick looking weapon.

Comment by styx121

This is a direct upgrade to Hammer of Ji'zhi from AQ40. It is probably one of the best Ret pally weapons in the game because of the great stam, intellect and spell damage bonus. The mana regen also helps out with healing in raids.

Comment by Thottbot

This is quite easily the best Holy/spell damage Paladin 2h in the game. The top damage should allow for some nice SOC procs, and the mana regen and +damage makes your Holy Shock, Judgements, and Consecrate bigger.

Anyone have a picture?

Comment by Thottbot

4 Hoursemen in Naxx...

Comment by Thottbot

All i have to say, if a warrior or druid even thinks of tryin to get this before a pally he needs to be slapped, hard, and repeatedly:P

And for all those supposed badass warriors who think pallies cant do dmg and therefore shouldnt be allowed to bid on these powerful 2 handers, how come u get pwned all the time by them in PvP hmm? Healing ability aside, give a pally about equal gear as a warrior with the same 2hander=bye bye uber tank:) As one of the previous posts said, u dont have to be all holy to heal, 21 holy talents take care of it pretty well, leaving 30 points for ret talent, which pwns btw. And in the high end raiding, tanks dont use 2handers as much as 1h and shield or dual wield. In my opinion, warriors who always want the 2handers first over pallies are just plain greedy and selfish. All the good 1H swords and shields go to them first anyways in addition to them wanting all the best 2handers.As pallies, many of us use 2handers as our main weapons all the time, as we can dps better that way. Warriors on the other hand will almost always be fury or prot spec, which means 1h or duel wield work better for them and is more effective in PvP anyways. And plus warriors can do better dmg with a 1h than a pally anyways, we do our best dmg for the most part with 2handers. So plz warriors, next time a good 2hander drops, dont be greedy and try to hoard it for yourselves. Pallies FTW!

Comment by Thottbot

Note that, in the expansion, Balance druids are getting talents that encourage them to do melee damage in addition to spell damage, moving us closer to paladins in itemization. (For example, the changes to Moonkin form.) As such, more and more of us are taking our weapon DPS into account.

However, it is also important to recall that, unlike paladins, druids reset their swing timer with their instant-cast spells. And given abilities such as Omen of Clarity and the new Moonkin proc, we don't want to "waste" fractional swings. Thus, we prefer fast-acting weapons, rather than 3.6-second swingers like this Maul.

Thus, while this weapon does have an impressive amount of DPS, it is lacking in both spell damage and weapon speed. I might save it from the disenchanters, but I'd never take it from a paladin. Or a shaman, I suppose.

Comment by Thottbot

just to the idiot who said warriors own pallies, theres not a warrior thats able to touch a pally they just cant touch pallies, and yes a retribution spec pally can do some nice dmg no one realizes this....

Comment by Thottbot

99% of the people currently playing this game will NEVER see this weapon drop anyway as their idiotic and selfish comments regarding whose weapon this goes to most likely indicates that they lack the mental capacity of being a contributing member of a high end naxx guild that has completeted naxx or are on the upper tier of bosses.

as for who this weapon goes to, it goes to the "whoever has most dkp and is willing to outbid others for it" class.

its specifically good for palys, shammys and to a certain extent, druids (tho the top end dps is sort of wasted on them)

Comment by Thottbot

The weapon is awesome, no question about thet. Only 1% of players will ever see it ingame, even less question about that.

My comment is refering to the statement:"without all the buffs he would go down like Fidel Castro in 5 seconds facing any class with matching gear." Have you ever fought a paladin m8? You'r comment is suggesting that you have never actually seen a paladin, let alone fought one. No class, in any gear... let me say that again... NO CLASS IN ANY GEAR can kill a paladin so easy as you would like us to belive, bubble aside wich is 12 secs of guaranteed life even if the paladin in question is naked. Paladins have an allmost redicolous ammount of armor and healing no matter what they are specced and no matter what they wear.

You are obviously one of those peaple that is a true hard core horde player and in that you obviously despize paladins with all your heart, ty for giving the horde paladins Blizz, let's see them wine about that bloddy bubble now that they have it too.

He filmed only crits... dude, have you ever been in Naxx, you know how long do those figts last? If he was to film everything we would either have a movie about killing 2 mobs, or a movie that would last longer then Ben bloddy Hur, and seeing that he had to choose specific scenes... well wich scenes would you put if not the most impressive ones.

His point is... paladins can do DPS... the statement "paladins can't do DPS" would be true if it had only one more word in it, "constant", we can't make our every hit make insane dmg, BUT... every 8 seconds (judgment CD) the *!@# hits the fan.

I'm currently using an Obsidian edged blade, a few T1 items, one T2 item, and a few random ones (nothing IMBA) and if nothing crits I do somwhere around 1300 dmg every 8 seconds, and if it crits, around twice as much... 300white+400SoC+600JoC non crit / 600white+800SoC+up to 1200JoC if all crits, so that's between 1300 and 2600 dmg every 8 seconds, I've rounded up the figures of course, but you get the picture, now imagine what that would look like with the gear that we saw in the movie... I'd say pretty close to what he is doing.

Before you guys say "SoC is a proc, sometimes it doesn't even happen", that's true, but there is a nifty trick of making it happen more... when you enchant Ur weapon, forget +9 weap dmg, +22 int, the crusader and all other fancy and pricy enchants, go for (this is gonna sound redicolous) "fiery weapon"... let me explain before you fall on Ur back end with laughter. Every chance on hit enchant (most of them anyways) has a high posibility to trigger the seal of command, so the logical thing would be to use an enchant that does next to nothing dmg, but procs every other hit... fiery weap is even better, out of 10 hits it procs about 6 to 7 times, and out of 10 procs every 6 or 7 trigger SoC, now add that up to the usual SoC proc rate and imagine it on a slower weapon, like 3,60 to 3,80 speed... and what do you get, you suddenly turn Ur SoC into SoR, the damn thing starts proccing like insane.

Omg I went all out on this post, well, I hope you had the patience to read my ramblings, ty and GL in killing those horsmen so you actually get to see this weapon instead of just talking about it.

Comment by Thottbot

Though I play Horde: This weapon is ideal for Paladin. Shaman would also benefit from it, but not all Shaman have the 2H weapon talent

Comment by Thottbot

This is a crappy weapon for 4DK. Just compare it with other weapons.

For Holy pal, definitely they'll use Lok'amir

For ret pal, this weapon is only a bit better than Ashkandi, while it is so much harder to get. Besides, 4DK drops Ashbringer; also, after 4DK you'll soon kill Kel'Thuzad and get Might of Menethil. Both are much better than this mace, while not so much harder to get.

Comment by Thottbot

I don't have this magnificent weapon myself, but I see that someone was asking for a screenshot, and I have a friend named Tommyw ( Magtheridon realm ) that has it, and he is an orc shaman, the guild even let him specc enchancement :D anyways i submitted two screenshots of him so they will be here soon ;)

Comment by Thottbot

Largest weapon in the game?

Comment by Allakhazam

I just saw a pally running around IF with one of these... things freakin huge :D

Comment by Allakhazam

So do you guys think Gorr could equip it when he got it? ^^

"Na i dont have 2h"

//Kloness

Comment by Allakhazam

PALADIN OWNZ ALL ! Paladins are a Shammy hater :-&, ugly f*cking tauern on ugly moving mounts (kodo) ... it simply turns me crazy when I see a ugly tauren shaman (specially when i see him on a ulgy mount).

Comment by Allakhazam

well i have to take that but this weapon is good for pallys shammies and druids.. gl getting.. ( plays a warrior)

Comment by Allakhazam

Does anyone know who drops this?

Comment by Allakhazam

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Edited, Sep 14th 2006 at 12:44am EDT by Aratix

Comment by Allakhazam

weapon skin : http://www.worldofraids.com/v2/?page=viewitem&idd=38

Nice !

Comment by Allakhazam

Doh double post

Edited, Sep 7th 2006 at 11:53pm EDT by ballasjr

Comment by Allakhazam

This is not a healing mace! if you want a healing mace you go for a 1 hander which can easily get over 100 healing. This is an exellent spell damage mace for pally/druid =) I've already seen like 3 posts saying "Hey, healers can use this" >.<

Comment by Allakhazam

omg nice shaman item:D

graatz Beyond Redemption

Comment by Allakhazam

Woah, a reason to go into Enhancment....

Comment by Allakhazam

Drops of Four Horsemen.

Pic: http://img225.imageshack.us/img225/5052/54321dc4.jpg

Comment by Allakhazam

Give!:) its like imba PvP and Pve o.O and nerf Beyond Redemption:P but Gz

Comment by Allakhazam

Grats Gorr from Beyond redemption on twisting nether who got wordl first on mace

/Jin

Comment by Allakhazam

This weapon is basically a successor of the Finkle's Lava Dredger with more mp/5s and also damage and healing. Not to mention the sick top end damage. If i were enhancement it would be the perfect ending piece for healers and enhancement.

Edited, Sep 6th 2006 at 8:10pm EDT by bigjoo

Comment by Allakhazam

waiting for a pic :D

Comment by Allakhazam

so .. who does this drop off? just so i can pursaude the guild to go there so i can get one mm

Comment by Allakhazam

very nice pally DPS mace, could almost last to 70 if you were lucky enough to get one.

Nice for shammy enchancment spec too.

Comment by Allakhazam

how do i get this

60 pally

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Maul of the Redeemed Crusader

Item Level 83
Binds when picked up

Two-Hand	Mace

244 - 367 Damage	Speed 3.60

(84.86 damage per second)
+29 Stamina
+24 Intellect
Durability 120 / 120

Requires Level 60
Equip: Restores 8 mana per 5 sec.
Equip: Increases damage and healing done by magical spells and effects by up to 35.

Sell Price: 26 6 74

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