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lol you guys are actually comparing a 1 hour fight to the final boss?
Imagine Echo saying they are turning off their stream to not help Limit when Echo has adapted to Limit strats to kill the past 9 bosses. They just dont want to show everyone that they are trying to use the same strat Limit is broadcasting. What a bunch of losers.
Limit didn't stream many times while they had one more day than Echo (when they were Method), and the advantage of the reset. They also copied Echo strats, they have much more pulls than them on the last two bosses. So I understand Echo : they have already a 24 hours disadvantage, the reset for them is 24 hours later, and Limit copy them or did the same before.
Or we actually watched the stream. They literally were going to bed, said hey, let's try a pull or two to see how it goes, and managed to kill the boss. It wasn't "we don't want them to see our strats". But hey, it's whatever you feel like believing. I was a huge Method fan before everything came out about things behind the scene, and honestly would prefer a guild other than Limit or Echo win but that just isn't going to happen.Turning off streams because you're planning on going to bed after one to two pulls of a new boss you were just trying to get some preliminary timers on for the next day versus not streaming an entire day's worth of progress on the final boss is not the same.
If you don't like it, then simply don't watch the stream. Don't support the reruns. Watch Complexity instead and vice versa when Complexity does this kind of thing.
Nice take dude. Have you watched any other rwf. This is always the case at the end of the day the only boss that matters it the last one. It would be stupid for echo not to use proven limit strategies and develop their own. Limit has always managed to secure world firsts on all the bosses leading up to the final one(due to the 16-hour advantage) but has always choked on the last one. We will have to wait and see. And to think if the raid wasn't released at the same time that guilds like pieces and echo would be able to develop great strategies on their own to secure kills on the earlier bosses when they have constantly performed better than Limit on final bosses is just borderline...
Ok so what? Limit were going to bed, then "accidentally" killed a boss, and you didn't post anything. Whya re you reporting on that then? And not even their world second kill on generals
It's not like Limit did the same thing with the secret phase last tier or with Council (or stone legion kill this tier). Also, you do not "accidentally" kill a Boss while you are looking for information. Without Echo (well ex-method) not a single world first guild would have ever streamed progress to begin with. But it is always the same with NA still crying even with a 16 Hour headstart (limit did not encounter 16 hours worth of game-breaking bugs btw). If Denathrius is not killed by today LIMIT will be the first on the Boss with full reset gear in the bags. Talk about advantages or disadvantages.
As someone who couldn't care less if either of these 2 guild loses(yeah I'm more interested in who will lose instead of who wins lol) I don't see how what Echo is doing is scummy or anything else...NA will have 16 hour weekly reset advantage... I don't see how people can think that the race is equal.Also why are people reacting as if they lives depend on this. Who cares who wins.
Sponsors aside, are guilds really beholden to stream at all? All that matters is world first kill right? They can kill while not streaming and still be first.