WoW Economy Weekly Wrap-Up: Hotfixes, Multiboxing, Market Analysis & Community Updates

posted 2017/10/07 at 10:15 AM by Gumdrops

check out the previous articles right here on wowhead.comGumdrops/r/woweconomy subredditDiscord serverTradeSkillMasterdiscussed by Order Hall maintainer /u/JumilithWell that's terribly disappointing so far. I'm still one armor piece off from my main's 950 set and it sounds like I won't be moving my team past the Krokuul level halls.

On the subject of Krokuul Halls, here's my day 23 gold sheet, last posted to Reddit at day 8.

Krokuul Gold Sheet

Noteable is the day 21 anomaly in which four characters posted all four Krokuul gold missions in a single 24 hour period. Mixed with other halls, the nine Hall team generated 62,028g that day.

Current total gold earned: 714,418.
Projected gold for the 7.3 60 day record: ~1,800,000.
Total gold for the 7.2 60 day record: ~690,000

The gold range for a Krokuul mission: 2097g to 2575g, with an average of ~2300. (This assumes 200%)

The Order Resources costs for Krokuul are:
Step into the Abyss (100)(24hrs)
Scaling the Crags (200)(12hrs)
Justice Has Come (400)(6hrs)
Foul Machinations (500)(8hrs)

Blizzard

Class Halls

Players no longer need to complete “The Seat of the Triumvirate” in the Argus storyline to unlock “The Ruins of Oronaar”, which allows further follower and mission progression.
Follower equipment that improves item level is more likely to appear from Argus missions, once “The Ruins of Oronaar” has been completed.
The final tier of Argus missions are now less difficult, reward more Veiled Argunite, and reward more bonus Gold.

Game Director Ion Hazzikostas speaks in more detail on the change in the recent Developer Q&A tooCarefully Hidden MuffinFeasel the Muffin Thief

Blizzard

Items

Carefully Hidden Muffins are now Bind-on-Acquire.

class trialsaccess to a weekly quest that they can complete for a raw gold rewardEvidently the developers agree and have made the quest inaccessible to Class Trial characters./u/Konsticorp poses some questionsFirst, I want to state that, from my experience, multiboxing clearly provides an advantage. This is most evident with gathering (nodes since Legion allow ten hits per), but also presents itself with world quests and, for some, trash farming. However, is this advantage truly unfair? The practice is permitted by Blizzard (multiboxing, not botting, please note the distinction) and can be performed by anyone with a fast enough computer and desire/ability to initially finance it (copies of Legion and monthly subs).

Second, do multiboxers truly ruin the economy? For myself, I don't farm materials (herbs/ores) and simply dump them on the AH. When I am not lazy I farm raw mats to feed the professions I have, such as inscription or jewelcrafting. However, even if I am dumping the materials on the AH, how would that be ruining the economy? Most goblins, I believe, will tell you that profit is not made (in most markets) because their products are rare or unique, profit is made because they are able to undercut their competitors at the right time and at a right frequency. Just because I am able to undercut someone's listing with 200 stacks of starlight rose doesn't mean those stacks will sell if someone undercuts me by a copper.

Finally, can multiboxers be considered goblins? This relates back to the first question and whether you believe there is an advantage to multiboxing and, significantly, if it provides an unfair advantage. I think my practice of multibox farming contributed, roughly, ten percent of my overall wealth. The rest has been buying low and selling high, and undercutting. Does that ten percent from the multiboxing advantage eliminate me from being considered a goblin?/u/monkeyman51 explainsI think it would be fair to claim that it's an unfair advantage if not everyone has the ability to 'exploit' it without breaking the rules. Really the only reasonable counter I can think of is, "But my computer can barely play as it is, I can't run the game twice." But that is an argument off 'fairness' beyond the scope of a video game and it's fake money./u/livingroomnerd countersMultiboxers also spend 5 times as much as a regular player, in perspective the input-output ratio is really similar. The advantages I have as multiboxer is BOE RNG, (unless I don't understand probabilities correctly) I as a player have more chance to get a BOE than a single player.
If I was to funnel all that gold to 1 account, that would be unfair. But since it is spent to play all 5 accounts (enchants, flasks, tokens) basically every toon is paying for his own stuff, just like a normal player would.
Also another advantage is being able to wipe WQ's and rares faster than anyone alone. Which in matter of gold per hour could show up for general drops. (i love farming cloth in Suramar)/u/Hellortha argues that the developers have been quite accommodating with features that help multiboxers tooThey've implemented many things for Multiboxers, such as the interact Keybind, assist macros, click to move.
(Also sharing Hierloom/Mounts/Transmogs/Quests)
Sure normal people can use them, but how many people actually use these aside from Multiboxers? I didn't even know 2/3 of them existed until I started.
If Blizz deems something unacceptable they will deal with it... that's why they removed /Follow from BG's because they understood Multiboxers could be a pain for other players there./u/dragonmase considers other advantages available and concludes "if you can't beat them, join them"As a player who multiboxes, I myself do think multiboxing is inherently unfair. However, it has been confirmed time and again to be allowed by blizz, and one has to make a substantial investment before it pays itself off. Which is why I made the step into multiboxing. You basically x5 your income if you multibox farm, so obviously it is unfair if you compare it to a single farmer.

However, I would draw an analogy to goblins starting another licence for an AH alt. Now this activity is widely accepted by the goblin community. It also gives unfair advantage for non-licence users, who can't park a character at AH 24/7 and play at thee same time. But most people accept it as well, because it requires effort, investment, and also not many people actually do it.

TSM users is another example - TSM is like air to goblins, and no serious goblin can do without one. Learning it and using it gives one a great unfair advantage to normal players using the default auction house, and things like sniping would be impossible.

Where does this get us? The world is never fair, and effort will be rewarded, whether in the real world, or the virtual world. There no point in arguing about unfairness in economics, where as long as it is legal, businesses and individuals who find the most efficient way to conduct their business will always come out ahead out of the other 1000s in the marketplace. After all, the fundamental concept of economics lie in the term "Comparative Advantage", and anyone who does not have the relevant 'advantage' will cry foul and call it being unfair.

My conclusion? I think multiboxing is unfair. But it is also legal. And when you can't beat them, join them, to be efficient with your time/farm ratio.@GumdropsEUTR4XGaming

Contextualize activities in-game, are we at the start of an expansion or is it drawing to a close?
What are players most likely going to be doing in the coming days, weeks?
What should I be preparing for based on the answers to the previous questions?
What can I do myself to profit from these opportunities?
Keep up to date with patch notes. Follow @WarcraftDevs on Twitter for the latest news.

SamadanPlaysWoWspotlight from last weekTradeSkillMaster API Documentation#tradeskillmaster channel on the /r/woweconomy & TSM Discord serverIf you're curious to know more, you can register your interest and sign up to be notified.The Undermine JournalEnigmaticClarity explains why it's not importantAll I sell is pets and mounts on five realms, and in my experience 95% of people who buy pets could care less about breed or level. The vast majority of the market is "gotta catch 'em all!", not pet battle min/maxers. Pet battling is too mundane for most people to care about it in much depth. I used to try to price different breeds and levels differently, but it didn't take long to realize it wasn't worth the time and storage. The number of people who really, really want that rare S/S Darkmoon Rabbit is so small that it isn't worth it to wait for those buyers. I firmly believe that almost everyone ignores breed, and they only look at level as a slight bonus.

The TSM guys decided to ignore the whole breed/level thing in their handling of pets, and that was the right call. Warcraftpets.com is a great pet-centric site, and they, too, mostly ignore breed/spec. They show it in the detailed info on a pet, but it doesn't factor into their comparative pet collecting registry at all.Erorus expanded upon the Top Sellers feature on the site to show rankings based on various stats and values
Here's what the fields mean. All numbers include both item and pet auctions. When I say "this auction house", I mean all the auctions posted on this realm (and connected realms).

This seller has 353 auctions posted right now. When ranked with other sellers in this auction house, they are 18th in highest number of auctions currently posted.
The sum of all the buyouts (plus bids on auctions with no buyout set) for this seller's current auctions is 8,322,667g. When ranked with other sellers in this auction house, they are 4th in highest total asking price.
The sum total of this auction house's market price for all the items & pets (multiplied by auction quantity) currently posted by this seller is 8,259,552g. When ranked with other sellers in this auction house, they are 4th in highest total market price.
The sum total of this region's median market price for all the items & pets (multiplied by auction quantity) currently posted by this seller is 3,672,293g. When ranked with other sellers in this auction house, they are 4th in highest total region price.

Category pagesClick the star next to your favorite realms. Up to 20 will appear in a dropdown when you mouse over realm selection.stop by the official forums on Stormspire and leave a comment/r/woweconomy subredditDiscord serverstreaming live on Twitch@GumdropsEUNote: this giveaway has ended. The winner is Varinn!To enter: leave a comment below (minimum 1-2 sentences) with your most expensive AH purchase.

Prize: 90 days of gametime

Entry period: Now until Friday, October 13th at 11:59 PM Pacific.here

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Comment by LenciaRogueI believe, as many have stated, that my most expensive purchase(s) have been Game Tokens. A few months ago, I got my first (and only) one for about 36k. I had to stop playing for financial reasons and when I was recently able to come back, I checked on the price again and they had exploded up to 156k on my server.Comment by MiraiAkumuMy most expensive buy would have to be when I caved and bought Spectral Tiger Cub or Soul-Trader Beacon, darn those TCGs being so tempting! -shakes fist- I can't remember the price I paid for them but I've only bought one of the jewel panther mounts to next compare in price and those two pets are way more then those mount XDComment by WolryrAlthough it may not be among the serious gold deals, I remember doing a super fast Vial of the Sands purchase in the AH, for around 75k, to kind of surprise a friend of mine who was so frustrated he didn't have flying in Legion when everyone had unlocked it months ago, so I ran him through a bunch of Legion Invasions and WQ and he got some rep, shards and gold in the way. Eventually this pushed him even more into getting the Pathfinder achiev. and I got to keep a fancy dragon, lol.Comment by whizzykeHonestly not sure as I don't buy mounts / pets or expensive stuff for myself so should be top few hundred k while flipping items. Cheers and keep up the good work, last week was my top gold making 800 k pure profit, while I have a family with kids and full time job.Comment by NishameiI dont often buy things on Auction House as I have top level farmers and crafters, but I did buy a Crimson Deathcharger a few years ago and it was around 50k gold. I dont think I have bought anything more expensive than that since.Comment by ZangoloidI'm really poor and i'm too lazy to farm and sell. my most expensive purchase was a tmog item for 14kComment by XirokoCan't remember what exactly it was, but i think that it cost over 50k. Probably a mount.Comment by BexieMy most expensive purchase from the AH was probably the Vial of Sands. Worth it though :) nice mount and very useful for transporting noobs around ;DComment by SheraxiaI've never bought anything really exciting off the auction house. I think probably my most expensive purchase was a staff of some sort for my druid back in the days of vanilla. I couldn't for the life of me tell which one it was as I don't remember lol.Comment by ketzbrehI was quite new I started in draenor and I sat and farmed giant dinosaur bones in isle of the giants continuously and then sit trying to sell them even nobody wanted them until I eventually had 167k to get a spectral tiger, There's no way I was sitting through enough bones to get a swift one lol.Comment by Narrak221It was the jeweled sapphire panther. It costed me 22k. Well, it's not that much but still imo it's the most expensive item which I've bought on the AH.Comment by NinaevaThe most expensive thing I bought is WoW token. Buying it ever since it came out, spent around 2 mil gold on it so far cause that is my only way of paying monthly for the game time. It is around 256k on EU realms, so yes, could say that is the most expensive purchase I did (and still doing).

Can't afford to spend gold on anything else, but raiding supplies.

Besides that, I sold Crimson Deathcharger back in WoD for 75k, bought it later on for 36k and that is the most expensive thing I've bought besides game time.

Would also like to thank you for gold making guides, those helped me a lot to get some money and stay in game! <3Comment by anthonyvdvHello Wowhead community

The most money I have spend on the auction house has got to be on buying materials to level professions. Also spend alot for crafting materials. If you want to make certain items it can get pretty expensive but good that is all part of the game!

I think we can all agree that the Auction House is a brilliant feature in World of Warcraft. It is a very good simulation towards real life.

I hope you all enjoy the game ;-)

Kind regards
AnthonyComment by CrystysI bought Reins of the Crimson Deathcharger and tabard of the lightbringer, for 200k, and sold them for 280k.Was a good investment.Tsm, helped me a bit, getting some gold, when i most needed it.

Have a nice day everybody.Comment by thingwhatwowsI bet the most expensive thing I purchased from the AH was Hatespark the Tiny. As an avid pet collector I just had to have the special elemental that dropped from Ragnaros during the special Molten Core event, and I never found one myself.Comment by AnnyiTol'vir Hieroglyphs when I was trying to get the bug mount from Archeology. There were about 1200gold a piece and I bought a LOT of them. Worth it though!Comment by AkuhhI don't buy a lot of things from the AH. But most of the profession mounts came from there, so I would say the Jeweled panther is probably the biggest purchase I made.Comment by whiskassI think i didnt buy anything that expensive to lits here...im one of the people that are afraid to spend their money haha ! I think i paid most for a Darkmoon Deck: Promises for 18k !Comment by MazthorilI honestly don't remember purchases that much on the ah since I do it almost daily: trying to expand my mog collection, recipes, mats. However, one that sticks out to me is Vial of Sands that teaches the Sandstone Drake mount. I had been watching its prices since I desperately wanted a two seater mount since I carried my fiance's lower toons a lot. I believe I bought it for 50-60k on the Staghelm realm back during the dreanor expansion I believe. Two thirds of the way through on my rogue cause that's when they did pick pocketing like crazy and when tannan wasn't out so they we also doing missives, lfr, ect. The prices now are 100k+ and I'm glad I bought it then.Comment by keyejiaJust bought a swift spectral tiger for 6.1mil, recently.
Wanted one since WoD, never had enough gold to buy them, till now.

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