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Early Look at New PvP Talent UI in Battle for Azeroth

posted 2018/02/24 at 7:23 AM by perculia

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Comment by Kendrubbin going forwards there are pepole\r
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;) Comment by SyLVan0s well,it looks like interesting :) Comment by kleman96 Please, make prestige and PvP talents available at level 10. Comment by Oixio just don't bring templates in BfA! \r
this is damn MMO RPG and not a Counter Strike or OW Comment by AnionLP This looks nice, I hope we can get better PvP than in Legion, just like in WoD with Honor and Arena Points...\r
And I hope we get extra Openworld PvP Gear like, every lvl you get a 20% chance for a new item and on every lvl it could be an other better item with an other look... Comment by sProgrammer Time to kill some Alliance dogs. For the Horde! Comment by Enrif this looks like the old glyphs system! Comment by Arakara I was actually afraid that Blizzard would say "we're going to reset your prestige progress from Legion" or something. Happy to see that what I did during Legion will stay. :)\r
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Say what you want about PvP towers in Legion, it was still a nice way for PvE players like me to slowly grind their way towards some nice rewards, over time, while the real PvPers were already far ahead of us.\r
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I hope we'll still have something like Legion PvP towers around. I hope the difficulty to progress in prestige levels will kinda stay the same. \r
I'd love for my orc blademaster to unlock cooler version of the Horde pennant during BfA.\r
What? You can be a PvE player and still want to show your love for your faction.\r
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On a side note, PvP sets are very often super cool. And lemme tell you, I'm NOT looking forward to wearing that hybrid Troll-Titan T22 set Blizzard talked about around BlizzCon.\r
PvE players wearing sets visually designed around the raid where we get them is never appealing to me, and yet, Blizzard keeps doing that. I don't want to wear what the bad guys wear. I want to wear something that works with one of the many roles I can 'roleplay' as in the confines of what my race offers. For instance, we still don't have a proper Tauren paladin set. We still don't have a Wildhammer dwarf shaman set. T6 was the best option to look like a Stormwind human paladin until T20 (basically the same thing).\r
Make for yourself a list like that of combo class\/race\/subfactions and try to work-out what you can do successfully do with PvE sets. You'll see it's not as easy as it looks.\r
To me, T19 was awesome, with its Argent Crusade Paladin set, its Windrunner\/Elven hunter set (Horde PvP for blood elves, Alliance PvP for high elves \/ void elves, MM for forsaken dark rangers...), that shaman set that managed to work for various races depending of the version you got (like the LFR one for Draeneis) or the Night-elf druid set...\r
Same for Demon Hunters. Some nice sets and weapons were made. But in BfA, we already know they'll get Zandalari and Kul'tiran warglaives. Try to make THAT work in roleplay for a blood-elf and a night-elf. I personally don't see how I'll be able to.\r
I'm gonna stop here because this is already getting out of hand and I'm only getting myself angry. Comment by Soifon just don't bring templates in BfA! \r
this is damn MMO RPG and not a Counter Strike or OW\r
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You do realize that stats template is what makes PvP fair to everyone and not a grindfest for the better geared players?\r
I used to think that this sucks but when you lvl an alt or you are starting fresh and enter bgs , you want to start bging right away , it makes it unplayable.I do hope they keep it because I always disliked that I just to spit a bit of damage and kill someone or being 1-shoted by someone far better geaerd than me. Comment by mathiaslindberg Remove stat templates. Make gear that only works in PvP and is better than any PvE gear. Fixed it for you. Comment by Kurokun14 Removing templates and going back to earning your pvp gear rather than a bad rng drop system would be preferable to me and my friends when we talk about pvp since legion Comment by 1505947 This post was from a user who has deleted their account. Comment by docseuzz I'm more curious about the Activates PvP talents for PvE - having 3 + cc extra abilities while leveling through BfA certainly is an incentive to activate PvP.... Comment by Drex202 Old major glyph system? Comment by sadistic12345 remove the tanks from pvp already stop fooling around with talents Comment by Vynillin Remove stat templates. Make gear that only works in PvP and is better than any PvE gear. Fixed it for you.\r
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Returns to huge issue of the enormous and artificial gating to participating in actual PvP vs. just stomping 99% of players because you have stats in a PvP instance and they don't. Returns to huge issue of many extra sets of gear in bags taking up space needlessly. Returns to issue of an enormous and unnecessary divide and timesink between playing competitive PvP and PvE.\r
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Nty. Been there done that. This is much better. Not perfect, but much better. Comment by Whawk I hope they will not return pvp gear. I don't like grind pvp for !@#$ty armor and use it in open world. PVP templates are what makes pvp skill based, not gear based. And it's good. Comment by 1505947 This post was from a user who has deleted their account. Comment by SquirePip just don't bring templates in BfA! \r
this is damn MMO RPG and not a Counter Strike or OW\r
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You do realize that stats template is what makes PvP fair to everyone and not a grindfest for the better geared players?\r
I used to think that this sucks but when you lvl an alt or you are starting fresh and enter bgs , you want to start bging right away , it makes it unplayable.I do hope they keep it because I always disliked that I just to spit a bit of damage and kill someone or being 1-shoted by someone far better geaerd than me.\r
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This if I want to PvP, I shouldn't have to raid also. Funny how PvP'ers are always the ones claiming PvP is all about skill, yet any change that makes WoW pvp based more on skill than gear seems to get them mad. Comment by Engaged I hope they will not return pvp gear. I don't like grind pvp for !@#$ty armor and use it in open world. PVP templates are what makes pvp skill based, not gear based. And it's good.

There absolutely should be PvP gear. When you're done grinding your gear and you're playing 2k mmr + you are on the same level as any template would ever get you. And it has to be good and continous rewards that are not cosmetics for PvP players aswell.

The differences should be in bonuses, trinkets and the ratio of stamina and primary stat. PvP gear can give more stamina and survivability, PvE more power. PvP trinkets should be equipped like before. Which gives you the upperhand when you meet PvE players without it. And also, if you've invested SO MUCH time in the game, either it's PvP or PvE, you shouldn't be locked out of either activity because of your gear. You've worked for and earned your rewards, now get out there and do what you want! There should be a gap, but not one that's making players in PvP gear be a safe win. Ultimately, it should be your skill and slightly higher survivability that makes you win in wPvP against a PvE player. Players who main PvE doesn't necessarily suck in PvP either!

Another thing I would suggest is lowering health of mobs and bosses in PvE. If the goal is to kill a mob with roughly 5-6 million health in 2-3 seconds in for example what equals the quality of 960+ gear today, then reduce health and player power by 40-50% (You kill players just as fast in WPvP btw). If you would meet a player and use the same rotation and burst on him as you did on the mob with this change, you would see the same numbers but 40% of his health gone. The mob however would be dead. Your damage per second on meters shouldn't equal killing your maintank in 3-4 seconds. The numbers and gaps are getting ridiculous.

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