Time to stop tanking after 12 years.
As someone with 4 tanks, I think this can be a fun change, as long as they fix that dreadful tab targeting!~
People that don’t have to worry here:-Decent tanks with older habits-DPS that can adapt to single target assisting-Healers who stick to working with people they know.People that should be concerned:-DPS that feel they should be able to target whoever and be safe to go balls out.-Healers, all the healers PUGing with strangers. As always, the perception of your performance is in everyone else’s hands. Good luck.
Good change, I found Skittish kinda fun as a tank.
4 and 14 is a huge difference perhaps the number can be tuned some? Maybe not all classes but the ones who do lower have a higher baseline.
Wow, in BfA tanks will actually have to do something!
Why bringing back old @#$% times' flavor only to please some retired players who keeps nagging about vanilla? I admit that threat generation is ridiculous but also back then we had very few AoE but now even a raid boss have AoE situations. And When a tank will fail to hold aggro, everyone will blame him (just like a lot of stupid does in skittish week). 4x threat than DPS is retarded, 8-10 is normal. On patchwork boss fights tank can no longer hold the big burst of 14 dps with their only 4x threat along with costly, unspam able spells (example: thrash and revenge).
I’ll be honest, my tanking habits date back to when threat “mattered,” so ultimately I’ll be ok here once the dust settles... but I’m not leveling any of my tanks until the really dedicated among you have run in, wiped with PUGs and provided the feedback that will get this tuned to reflect reality.
Another pointless change, yay.
I've always thought tanking in Legion was too easy. I'm ready for this challenge. ...please be patient with me. lol
Cataclysm is out guys! FINALLY :D lets see how it goes ( again )
So... they gonna do anything about this in terms of application to content while leveling? You know, when someone would, in theory, be learning the mechanics of a class? Because if you are going to change such nuanced mechanics, that are not readily present in the game through easy-to-understand means, you need to look at it from the bottom up.I'm a vet of over 13 years now. I don't mind dealing with this as a tank (though it will curb my interest in PUGing, cause people do not pay attention to their targets), I main a Paladin as Prot and Ret, and have since TBC. But someone new coming in is going to have problems understanding HOW this works when they are running Wailing Caverns, Stockades, and more, and wondering why their DPS keep getting attacked so much. It's not solely the tank's fault (DPS not focusing the tank's main target are just as much to blame, if not more), but it is Blizzard's fault if they do not make this abundantly clear to new players coming in to tank (and DPS), what they are dealing with. Outside sources of information for core role mechanics, should not be needed.
I believe this is a net positive. Threat management has been a non-issue for some time now, and as someone else commented, most people who are relatively new to tanking will certainly feel lost in the beginning. Hopefully threat will become important once again, and skills like Misdirection or Tricks of the Trade (as well as threat management overall) will regain some relevance.The problem with this is that tab targeting is total crap. Unless it gets fixed and stops pulling mobs from the opposite end of the instance this is going to be a huge wipefest.Personally I have always kept stuff like Omen active, and maintained the habit of casting MD/Tricks all the time, so that's a portion of my rotation that will no longer be a waste of time anymore.
You'll only complain if you dont know how to dps as a tank
lul, keep dreaming
Remembers Vanilla when DPS had to wait for tank to get aggroe before we let loose on Mobs.
The way I see it is like this: It doesn't mean if you are DD (Damage Dealer) or healer you should not know how to play with the tank role in mind. It's like a connected game play. Even if you are a DD, it doesn't me you just go in there and start a mindless DPS. You gotta have some understanding on everything, like, surroundings, "what's happening to my team/party", "I must wait for the Tank to go first", CC mobs to stop them from getting your healer, and so on. Being a DD doesn't only mean "mindless DPS". This also applies to the healer. Don't heal a lot when the Tank is yet pulling the mobs, don't burst unnecessary healing from the start and get aggro, and also burn your mana fast which puts you at a lot of trouble.I didn't like Tanking in Legion because Tanks had a lot of power to sustain many packs easily, even while on lower levels (101-109) too. I'm loving this. Looks like I might main a Tank specialization in BFA.
Oh dear lord, I can already feel deep in my bones that this is going to become GD forum drama at some point.With that said, grat's out there to some of yall tanks who wanted threat to matter more :D Hopefully this provides a more interesting experience to you all.