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Havoc Demon Hunter in Shadowlands - DPS Strengths, Best Covenants, Soulbinds and Legendaries

posted 2020/11/21 at 9:47 AM by Kib0

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What Has Changed for Havoc Demon Hunter?Shadowlands Demon Hunter Class Changesprevious articleNotable Changes Since Last Article

All 4 different Covenants received numerical alterations bringing them closer together.

Some tuning has been done to various talents and spells.

Unbound Chaos was changed... AGAIN.
On one hand, removing the Inner Demon from the talent is great as the landing has been historically buggy and highly dependent on the player latency. On the other hand, the Inner Demon offered an iconic feel and visual to this talent. Overall I think for the greater good, this is a great change apart from the 50% nerf that came with this change in order to put the talent in line with the other two talent on the same row.

Glaive Tempest

Originally and for a long time on beta, Glaive Tempest did not benefit from our Mastery: Demonic Presence. This has been fixed making Glaive Tempest a better talent.

Fodder to the Flame

Not exactly the most insane rework but it makes the ability stronger.

Leveling Perks in Shadowlands

Level 52 - Fel Rush.
A nice damage boost to Fel Rush, nothing extraordinary but great nontheless.

Level 54Metamorphosis

The Chaotic Transformation azerite trait as a passive. This somewhat restrict our usage of Metamorphosis around min/maxing the effect of this passive which is generally great but on some niche encounter can also be very limiting on how and when we use our 4 minute cooldown. Generally a good passive to have.

Level 56Chaos Strike

Havoc pure single target damage is slightly below average in Shadowlands and this passive is a very welcome one.

Level 58Eye Beam

We commented on the previous article about the lost of Furious Gaze and what it meant for the spec going forward and Blizzard heard us. Furious Gaze passive is extremely powerful and benefits our cooldown based spells greatly. What is even better is that in Shadowlands Furious gaze is haste % and not haste rating like it was in BFA, which means that the secondary stat DR will not affect this powerful passive.

Gameplay Repercussions from the Recent ChangesGlaive TempestDemonicMomentumFel BarrageCovenantsKyrianNecrolordNight FaeVenthyrHereKyrian

Elysian Decree is quite nice ability to use. The sigil being AoE and on a short cooldown gives it a good niche that emphasize one of Havoc's strength. The 3 lesser soul fragments are also nice to have access to and synergize well with Demonic Appetite granting you basically 90 fury every time you use the spell.

Repeat Decree - This conduit generates a second sigil in the same spot that deals a portion of the damage. Unfortunately it doesn't also generate extra souls. Still, it's a respectable increase to one of our most powerful AoE damage abilities.

Summon Steward This ability offered strong utility in M+ due to the amount of debuff it could cleanse from the player but now that Nathria testing has concluded, this signature looks even better. Most encounters in the raid involve bleeds which can be cleansed from the potion.

Necrolord

Fodder to the Flame - Has just been reworked, again. Not exactly the most insane rework but it makes the ability stronger. The newly buffed Empowered Demon Soul is also a significant buff for us on a 2 minute cooldown which means that every other use will also by synced up with Metamorphosis for big gains.

Brooding Pool - This extends the duration of the damage buff from absorbing an Empowered Demon Soul. It's a strong choice if playing Necrolord, as it can provide a significant uptime increase to a 25% bonus.

Fleshcraft The shield can be quite powerful in niche situations which seems to be the theme for Signature abilities. We can all think of / remember encounters where having this shield would've been a life saver and I don't think Shadowlands will be any different.

Night Fae

The Hunt has received a nice buff recently making it more competitive with the other covenant ability. The dot is still extremely weird to apply with 100% confidence as mob hitbox are very often deceptive in their size on top of a charge ability. The cast time makes this ability extremely awkward to use as well to say the least.

Unnatural Malice - A substantial increase to the primary target damage of The Hunt. Unfortunately has no effect in AoE.

Soulshape With so much mobility available to us with Fel Rush, Glide, Vengeful Retreat and Mastery: Demonic Presence this is quite useless for us.

Venthyr

Sinful Brand. is the highest damage covenant ability for us. The downside compared to the Kyrian ability is that Sinful Brand is only single target outside of when you Metamorphosis every 4 minutes and apply Sinful Brand on all targets hit by Meta.

Increased Scrutiny - A good reduction to the cooldown of Sinful Brand, has great synergy if playing Wasteland Propriety from Theotar the Mad Duke.

Door of Shadows A teleport can be situationally nice however for the same reasons the Night Fae signature was pretty useless outside of these moments for us.

OverviewVenthyrKyrianVenthyrKyrianBest Conduits and Soulbinds for Havoc Demon Hunter

Potency

Relentless Onslaught - For Raiding. This conduit will give us a great single target damage bonus which is the desired type of damage for most raiding encounters.

Growing Inferno - For M+. A very solid buff to Immolation Aura in AoE and cleave making our sustained DPS noticeably stronger.

If your soulbind tree allow for two Potency conduit, use the two above in all situations. They are simply that good

Finesse - Finesse conduits do not provide great benefits for Havoc so if we pick them we will use them in this order.

Felfire Haste - a nice movement speed buff.

Ravenous Consumption - situationally nice but enemies having multiple buffs to purge is a rare occurrence, strong in PVP however.

Endurance

Viscous Ink - a flat magic damage reduction? Most damage taken from encounters is magic. This conduit is extremely strong in all content of the game.

Fel Defender - another strong defensive conduit on a short cooldown ability. This is great all around.

Shattered Restoration - especially strong when playing Demonic Appetite due to the extra orbs spawned, so some niche uses.

Best Soulbinds for Havoc Demon HunterVenthyrKyrian

Thrill Seeker is a powerful haste buff with decent uptime in Raid, and very good uptime in Mythic+.

Agent of Chaos is a solid interrupt ability, with many possible uses in Mythic+.

Exacting Preparation is just a permanent buff to consumables, which is always good.

Dauntless Duelist is a solid passive, equivalent to 3% Versatility. Unfortunately it requires a second Finesse conduit, putting it behind some others.

Let Go of the PastLegendaries

Demon Hunter Legendaries

Collective Anguish - This power is very strong. Provides very strong AoE burst and reliable single target damage also.

Darkest Hour - 0 throughput benefits, RNG defensive as darkness does not guarantee any damage being prevented to begin with... very weak.

Darkglare Boon - This legendary provides a powerful buff... when it procs... With a 20% chance to proc the delta between good and bad pulls is very large. Very up or down feeling with this legendary. Numerically it is strong but in practice, reliable damage is almost always preferable.

Fel Bombardment - This legendary synergize well with both Master of the Glaive and Momentum. However with recent changes to how the legendary works, it is quite lack luster to use. The extra glaives are very buggy, but at least they don't pull extra adds anymore. The damage provided by this legendary is strong in all situations, but unfortunately it is still bugged and does not throw the correct amount of glaives resulting in a lot of damage lost.

Havoc Demon Hunter Legendaries

Burning Wound - Is a decent legendary on AoE and mostly for M+. It requires a lot of tab targeting to fully utilize but if you can maintain the debuff on multiple enemies the damage ramps up quickly.

Chaos Theory - Recently buffed and now a strong legendary for single target when using First Blood. There is some RNG involved in proccing this but the bonus it provides is very very strong.

Darker Nature - Very strong bonus but the proc condition for this legendary are quite hard to meet. Holding Eye Beam for the end of a pull is very very bad as well and sniping killing blow isn't the easiest task to achieve.

Erratic Fel Core At first glance this looks amazing paired with Momentum but in reality the extra time we spend in Momentum is basically wasted as we do not currently have the resource generation to empower the added momentum uptime. Later in the expansion this legendary power will gain a lot of value.

Neutral Legendaries

Echo of Eonar - Was weak, buffed, and then nerfed. It has too low of a proc rate to be useful and the effect itself isn't even particularly powerful despite being random.

Judgment of the Arbiter - Same as every other legendary in this category. It does some damage but weak.

Maw Rattle - Simply useless outside Torghast.

Norgannon's Sagacity - We aren't casters. Useless.

Sephuz's Proclamation - This is decent in Mythic+ due to the high uptime on interrupts and stuns. It's a decent option but not quite as strong as others.

Stable Phantasma Lure - Something for world content? Probably unnecessary.

Third Eye of the Jailer - Nice buff, but useless in PVE or PVP.

Vitality Sacrifice - Used to be good for Vengeance but for Havoc, pretty useless once again.

Choosing a LegendaryCollective AnguishSoul AshFel BombardmentConcerns Going ForwardThe performance of a spec does not correlate to how engaging / fun it is to playEye BeamChaos Brand

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Comment by Latus

CA Legendary is Collective Anguish, not Chaos Theory, so I don't see why you would use BD if you're using CA in single target without BD talents.
Edit: Pressed send early, oops.

I highly doubt that you'd cut BD from AoE... surely its not been nerfed that badly? Else what is the purpose of the ability. :sComment by Durlotdecent guide, but compared with many of the other ones for other classes, quite lackluster, missing in the depth of a "guide" and feels rushed. No talent discussion or anything. I can gather the missing information, but for new players to the DH class or returning players I don't think this is useful besides the covenant info.
Anyhow thank you for the effort put into it.Comment by enghelalI just quit the game because this trash If another's kids cray for samthing they narf and buffs make this game like trash not just DH alot of classes like that.Comment by michaelanjelo1you go finese cuz the passive after wards is very good and the potency conduits for havoc arent that good, you could fill it with the immolate conduit for aoe but 3% dmg buff after the finese conduit at all times in single target is extremly good

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Havoc Demon Hunter in Shadowlands - DPS Strengths, Best Covenants, Soulbinds and Legendaries

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