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Comment by 7049

This is the hardest demon of the hunter epic bow quest, and here is the best strategy i found.
(Strategy from TKA something)

Strengths:
* He does NOT predictably chase you. He frequently stops to fear (disorienting you and causing around 800 damage also) or will stop to shoot homing beetles at you
* The homing beetles basically prevent you from bandaging. They move extremely slow but hit extremely hard
* If you leave melee range (further than 2-3 range or so), he uses an instant cast fear spell that also does 700-800 damage instantly, and he can cast these quickly, almost seemingly chain casting. Shadow protection potions do absorb this damage, however, even with greater potions, he tears through them very fast. It's also likely that the fear will send you into the homing beetles
* Seemingly unlimited mana bar, so Viper Sting is useless
* Scorpid sting has very little/no effect on him
* Melees extremely hard and fast (200+) when in "normal" form (described later)

Weaknesses:
* If you use Wing Clip on him, it immobilizes him completely with "Crippling Clip" for 30 seconds (it must be Rank 3 Wing Clip)
* The homing missiles (creepings) are not fired when you remain in melee range
* He does NOT cast his fear when you remain in melee range
* Must be 'chilled' via Frost Trap prior to fully engaging

Strategy:

The trick to this fight is being able to absorb a fairly high amount of shadow damage, along with keeping his beetles (creepings) eliminated in packs with Volley. Being that Volley has a 60 second cooldown, your movements throughout the fight should be somewhat like an insect rodeo with a large crippled demon for your audience. This is the most difficult and most technical of all the demons.
* Confirmed to work as recently as of patch 1.6, the strategy is as follows. Drink a Greater Shadow Protection Potion, and wait for the timer to cooldown. You will want to apply this effect immediately after his fear damage is no longer being absorbed. If you wait for your health to be low and use a Greater Health Potion, you will be undercutting your damage absorption. Strictly leave the timer open for another Greater Shadow Protection potion. By the time your timer is up, it will be gone. Lay a Frost Trap and use auto shot to engage him and set of the trap. Feign Death and you will see that he no longer has his bright red color. Lay down an Immolation Trap or Explosive Trap and drink up to full mana, you will need it for this fight.

Comment by 8691

A quick note, in addition to the strategy above, the frost trap to "chill" his is no longer working. Don't waste time and mana while he is up.

Comment by 1718

Most strategies are out of date for this fight, so here is mine, I did it during the 2.0.1 patch with a Hurricane wielding (crappy) hunter.

I tried it several times buffless, just to see how it would work. I do not see how anybody could do this without buffs or pots at all, it's just not possible. Then I had a warlock and a priest help me out, this shouldn't be a problem for you to find, because if you're in a guild that can get you the ingredients for the quest, you should have some warlocks or priests laying around, it doesn't take long. Pay them if you have to, or you'll be pulling your hair out.

Use the warlock to duel you, and have him put rank 1 curse of recklessness on you, this is a debuff and you can reapply it during the fight. If he forgets, you will get feared and their is a good chance that you will die. The frost trap to remove his enrage still works. Use a 2 handed weapon just so you won't miss your wingclip, and use a rank 3 wingclip. Start shooting him, throw in a serpent sting if mana allows. When he gets remotely near, smash wingclip. If you do it right, he won't even get one hit off. If he does hit you, it will be between 200-400 damage, only one hit usually. Don't use concussive because it could slow him down to the same speed as the bugs, so the next time you go to wingclip him, the bugs will be hitting you as well. That's bad.

Then run away from him in a straight line, placing a rank 2 explosive trap between you and him at the edge of your maximum range. Shoot until the wingclip wears off, the explosive trap keeps applying damage to all bugs like a consecrate, rank 1 isn't enough, and rank 3 is overkill, save your mana. When root wears off, run away from the bugs until he gets close enough, and repeat. It should be him, 25 yards, a explosive trap, 6 more yards, and then you. Bandage early to start the timers, use the trick with the shadow protection potions, I used two. I was horribly geared and I ended the fight with 90% health and only used one bandage. By putting an explosive trap between you and him, you are basically in a 100% safe zone for the duration of the root.

If you cannot do this with a priest and a warlock, get someone else to do it for you, it doesn't mean you're a bad hunter, it's just not a very normal PvE encounter.. Some people say the fear is cheating, I disagree. All of the other fights took skill, but if you had no warlock during this fight, it would be 100% luck on whether you got feared into the bugs or not.

Also, once you start the fight, your friends can wander around and kill mobs in the middle of the fight, just not Solenor or the baby bugs. I did this fight with explosive trap, aspect of the hawk, and serpent sting. I did not use multishot or volley. Due to laying traps in mid combat, I believe explosive trap is the best strategy due to the 30 second duration of his root and the 30 second cooldown of the traps.

Good luck.

Comment by Nines

The Solenor fight can be the most difficult in the Hunter quest - he has a nasty fear and shadow damage attack, spawns scarabs and is surrounded by a lot of high level creeps. On a PvP server it gets even worse with his patrol path located in a heavily player travelled area.

Greater Shadow Protection Potions are your friend here, the shadow damage is unavoidable regardless of a resisted fear (at least in my experience prior to 2.0.1).

The fight has changed with traps in combat and your best bet is to use explosive trap to deal with the bugs. If mana is an issue then you will want to use a downranked Volley - the new casting time and no need to channel is a nice change.

Solenor is susceptible to Wingclip and wingclipping him will immobilise him for around 30 seconds. During this time use him as a pivot point to round up the scarabs he sends at you so that they are clustered and can be dealt with via explosive trap or Volley.

There are some interesting ways of avoidng the fear and making this fight a near gimme.

Curse of Recklessness from a Warlock will render you immune to fear as well as increase you AP (but lower your armour), because it is technically a debuff and not a buff it will not despawn Solenor when reapplied by that warlock.

Fear Ward only offers protection from one fear though there was a bug a while ago where if fear warded Solenor wouldn't even attempt to try and fear the hunter.

The fear causes shadow damage on strike as well, hence the need for shadow protection of some kind. Solenor can also fear you out of his range and reset himself, happened to me more than a few times.

Chill effect: Solenor needs to be chilled via a frost trap to reduce his melee damage upon you, he can hit quite hard while you move in to wingclip him. This feature has been on again off again working/failing for some time now. Set a Frost Trap and pull him over it, once he activates the trap, feign and reset him. Being that frost trap is bugged atm it may not work....yet again.

The easiest start i found was to set an Explosive Trap and pull Solenor onto it and run in for the wingclip then move to range, the initial Explosive Trap will give you some early control that is paramount to success in this fight.

Shadow protection potions, heavy runecloth bandages, a little luck and learning how to use the immobilised Solenor as a pivot will help you win this fight.

Comment by Thottbot

I was with some guys in Silithus doing the hunter quest. I was in mostly pvp and mount buff gear when the Gnome (Nelson the Nice) suddenly went demonic, and 1-hit KOed me for 5715. I had nearly 4k damage (without my shield) so imagine that on a caster.

Comment by Thottbot

its only hunters who can kill this guy by kiting him ... running back and forward shooting him !

Comment by Thottbot

If he hit you for that much damage that means you hit him, interfering with a hunter's epic quest. that hunter would have probably had to wait 1-4 hours for that demon to respawn, if i were him i'd be VERY pissed.

Comment by Thottbot

He is for the hunter epic quest, if you get on his hate list while the hunter is fighting him, then he will depsawn. If you arggo him when the hunter is ooc, you will get wtfpwned. However to the guy who said you kite him and shoot him, not really

You have to wing clip him and shoot him while he is kept in place (wing clip is special against him; it roots him to where he is) and strafe around the beetles he sends

Comment by Thottbot

there is a kinda "exploit" w/ this demon but i dont wanna say it and maybe hav blizz find out =/

Comment by Thottbot

What is it then?

Comment by Thottbot

I've seen another exploit involving the hunter quests...Let's say you got your leaf and are trying to kill the demons and w/e. If you group up with another hunter and spawn the demon, the other hunter in your party can kill the demon for you, but you still loot the head and get credit for the kill. As long as the hunter who has the quest quest active spawns the demon another better geared/experienced hunter can kill the demons for them. I've seen it a few times..lame but w/e.

Comment by Thottbot

i've heard stuff where wing clip, yes rank 3 one, it doesn't immoblize him and sometimes you can't loot his head.. the demons are the most buggy monsters in the game :/

Comment by Thottbot

# Must be 'chilled' via Frost Trap prior to fully engaging (NOTE: As of the 1.11 patch, the 'chilling' of Solenor is not functioning correctly. This is a known bug but there is no ETA on a fix. So while his bright red color is removed, his melee remains high.)

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http://tkasomething.com/avatarfaq.php

He hits me for 600+ dmg every time when i'm trying to wingclip him. Couse of limited healing, this demon is even harder.

Comment by Thottbot

I really don't care how I get the bow....
I don't care about testing my skills....I do that everytime in BWL and BG's. Just gimme the damn bow!

I'll use every exploit to make it as easy as possible

Comment by Thottbot

I just did Solenor (god knows i used a warlock). I killed him when I had 60 health left...in fact, his adds killed me afterwards. The saving grace in the battle (as i had no SR gear) was Eazy throw dynamite, the ramp in the south corner of his pat, and GREATER REJUVENATION POTS....unfortunately they are 6 gold a pop for my server.

My gear was dwarf destroyer with the axe from snake boss. a couple zg items, t2 helm, and some pvp gear.

Just hope for good luck!

Comment by Thottbot

The most elite guild on our server is Blades of Wrath. They were riding from the west camp in Silithus down to start AQ40. Solenor was spawned from a hunter on his quest and Solenor wiped the ENTIRE Blades raid. I thought it was one of the funniest things I had heard in a really long time.
Of course, there may have been some survivors, but the way it was told to me, they all got one shotted lol.

Comment by Thottbot

Before the fight: It definitely helps to have the shadow protection buff from a priest and drink a shadow prot pot (I just used a regular one, costs less than 1g on my server) BEFORE you start - don't want any pots on cooldown while attempting. Also major healing pot's are good for this fight as well (as are any other healing items, like the crystals from Un'goro since they are on a different timer).

As with all the demons, I like to start off by setting a freezing trap and then aimed shot + multi shot. This demon is a tad bit more difficult that the others to trap but definitely managable. Just run STRAIGHT back behind your trap and he'll eventually run into it. He shouldn't have any bugs out yet, but if he does pick them off using regular shots (don't waste mana on multi and don't waste volley since it has a decent cooldown).

While the demon's still frozen, shoot another aimed shot + multi shot. Now is when the fight gets fun! As he's running at you, get him with scatter shot and while he's stunned run by and quickly wing clip him. Once he's wing clipped go ahead and get a few regular shots + multi if you feel you're ok with mana.

They first 2 times I tried this fight I got raped by the bugs while feared. The reason I did well on my 3rd attempt is because I stayed as far away from the bugs as possible. If you have them grouped up pretty well go ahead and cast volley on them to get them out of the way. Once they are gone run in and scatter shot him again followed by a wingclip. Run back out and shoot a few more shots at him. After he fears you he shouldn't fear again for a little bit so as long as the bugs aren't close to you, you should be able to full bandage.

This fight (in my experience) was all about "stick and move". Don't stay still for too long and keep your distance from the bugs.

Don't be afraid to use rapid fire as well if he just got off a fear on you and the bugs aren't out (or are dead). Every bit adds up and the demon will be dead in no time :)

Goodluck!

Comment by Thottbot

Here is a startegy that worked for me the first time i tried it (after 3 days and 120g spent on pots):

Before the fight get AT MOST 2 shadow prot potions, 2 elixir of the mongoose and 2 elixir of demonslaying, whoop tubers and/or a healthstone( since they share the same CD)

Buffs: Shadow protection from a priest

Spawn point: Spawn him on the south side of his path, east of the twilight camp and between that camp and AQ gates. You will see a stone ramp that the gnome passes by close to. Spawn him right on the bottom of the ramp.

Fight: you may or may not use a warlock ( i had CoR just for the first 2 mins, but i found it isn't necessary. If you us a warlock have him sduel you on the side of the ramp. Pop your pots and FROST trap him in the middle of the ramp and once he runs through the trap feign death. This will "chill" him down to normal armor/dps. Drink up, mark him, lay an explosive trap and go up the ramp to the top. The most important is to be able to keep him always in the middle of the ramp or the ledge next to the ramp. Start by using an Aimed shot ansd serpent sting and wing clip him in the middle of the ramp. Jump off it and SPAM Aimed shot and multi shot. The bugs cannot jump off the ramp therefore you have plenty of time. Once he runs to youimmobilise him on the ledge on jump on the ramp, it shouldn't be necessary to kill the bugs he spawns at this point so keep spamming your shots. Rince and repeat a a few times and he should be dead with you only having to use a whoop tuber or a healthstone.

Note: the bugs may at some point separate in 2 groups, one going up the ramp the other going down, choose whichever you want and volley them with volley rank 1

This was done in one try after 3 days thinking the bug from 1.11 wasn't fixed..sigh...

Good luck to everyone

Comment by Thottbot

Hunter "bug"? Just freakin' run up to him and scatter shot him THEN wingclip..problem solved!

Why do everything mentioned above when you just use your skills like blizzard intended the quest to be done?

Tsk tsk...maybe you shouldn't have your epic staff/bow if you aren't able to do the quest correctly :/

If you'd like to complete the quest and KNOW that you used your skill (rather than exploits), please don't read crap like mentioned above...

learn2useallyourhuntersabilities

Comment by Thottbot

I wonder why after sooo many patches this "chilling" effect on Solenor HAS NOT been fixed if it is an exploit...I rest my case.

Comment by Thottbot

Seriously, I was helping a hunter on my server out with this one. I stayed in a duel with him and put Rank 1 Curse of Recklessness to give him the fear immunity. Made it fairly easy.

Comment by Thottbot

frost trap will trivialize this fight post 1.12.... IF only i knew that earlier.. just take a few pots (shadow prot, mongoose ect..)

Comment by Thottbot

I just want to say...when i log on to www.wowhead.com/classic and search on how to do mobs/where to find them etc...i do it to know how to do it easily...at a low repair cost, and continue on enjoying the rest of the game. what i do not log on for...is to read all these qq posts from idiots like the guy who posted: "I personally will not be using this trick on my Solenor attempt as I do feel it is an exploit. And I want to feel I fully earned my bow. But good luck if you choose to." because i dont give a damn; if you are gonna make informative posts, do so to help the wow community...but if you are gonna make a display of your smug attitude towards fellow hunters...feeling high and mighty...go do that to people who actually think you are worth looking up to...and stop posting your opinions in as to 'how we need to play this game.'

Comment by Thottbot

I somehow got Nelson the Nice to not transform into a demon, while still being able to attack him and he dropped the head.

I went to talk to him and click the little box that says i know your true identity or whatever and immediately laid down a frost trap and started running away. Then Nelson became hostile but did not transform into a demon. Nelson didn't cast anything on me and didn't summon the bug things, he hit kinda hard maybe 600-800, but the wing clip still stunned him, so i just wing clip then run out so i can range attack. I just repeated this for about a minute or two till he was dead. Then i loot Nelsons corpse and theres Solenor's head lol.

Don't know what the deal with this is but it saved me a lot of aggravation.

Barrix 60 Hunter Illidan

Comment by Thottbot

before u go ripping others about not using their hunter abilites think about it. scatter shot is a talent, if they went full surv they dont have it so if the frost trap isnt working on him they are screwed

Comment by Allakhazam

does anyone happen to know what his non demon form name is?

Comment by Allakhazam

Sup with him today? one-shotted all the other demons, but been stuck on solenor for a while, heavily potted too, just evades even when firing under the 12sec aggro rule and getting feared into bugs a bit too much

Comment by Allakhazam

If you see someone fighting this, Or any other lvl 60 demons. If you see a hunter fighting a level 60Elite in: Silithus, Un'goro, Burning Steppes, Winterspring, Then do not at any time help him (Buff him attack the demon).

Thanks

Comment by Allakhazam

just downed him.. Didn't use any pots so don't waste ur money. a little tip though. Turn on name plate so you can see all the little buggers.

Comment by Allakhazam

This is a level 60 elite demon, one of four you have to kill in the Hunter's epic quest. The mob turns into a demon from a gnome at that location. For details, try the official hunter forums.

Comment by silyar

I don't know, he must be bugged. He just keeps resetting over and over. Even when I stand really close to the beetles, maybe 20m from Solenor he fears me away and resets. In about 20 tries I was only once in danger of dying, but he just keeps resetting no matter what I do.

Comment by faith1ntheknife

So I found this out the hard way, for some reason I did not train wing clip rank 3 at level 60, and quickly learned that wing clip rank 2 (and rank 1) do not root the demon like I was expecting. Make sure you are using wing clip rank 3!

Comment by zippac

He only fears when he's rooted

Comment by Penache

Patch 1.13.3 (Classic)

I wanted to add some comments that I couldn't really find anywhere in case they help someone on this Classic version. There has been a couple of hotfixes lately with the demons. These last 2 demons I did (Simone and Solenor) were a little buggy. They seem to reset at strange times, and other times they don't at all. Well, I 1-shot it with the warlock strat and a tremendous amount of buffs, because I didn't want to have to deal with the bugginess of the resetting (no one in the area). Here are what consumables are on a different timer, and the strat that worked for me.

I used: Songflower Serenade, Scroll of Protection IV, Scroll of Intellect IV, Scroll of Stamina IV, Scroll of Spirit IV, Elixir of Demonslaying, Elixir of the Mongoose (didn't think it would stack with demonslaying but it does), Gift of Arthas, Greater Shadow Protection Potion, Grilled Squid, Demonic Rune, Whipper Root Tuber, Ground Scorpok Assay, Ez-Thro Dynamite II, Major Healthstone, Doomshot, and had some Thorium Headed Arrow as backup.

I actually forgot to eat the food, put in the Doomshots (I was using Jagged Arrow in my ammo slot), use the healthstone, and use the dynamite. However, what is interesting and I didn't think about is, when using the demonic rune, the Shadow Protection potion absorbed the demonic rune damage, so I was able to restore mana, then bandage and get back to ~90% health/mana after the first wing clip. This may not be a good thing if your next shadow protection pot isn't up yet.

I talked to Nelson at about 28,87 in front of the ramp at the AQ gate area. I used the Frost Trap method to remove the enrage. Then I had my warlock buddy duel and apply Curse of Recklessness on me. I then laid down an Explosive Trap, then used this combo while backing up the ramp: Improved Hunter's Mark, Trueshot Aura, Aimed Shot, Multi-Shot, Improved Serpent Sting (Rank 8), and Wing Clip. I ran off the ramp, then wing clipped again, and pelted him with what I had. After immobilizing him again, I then used a Demonic Rune, and bandaged, then realized I forgot to use Rapid Fire and Berserking. I did that, got him with a crit Aimed shot, did a final wing clip and he was dead shortly after.

Supposedly using a demonic rune puts it on the same cooldown as the whipper root tuber, but I did not verify that.

This wasn't designed as a "strat" post, but more for information on what stacks, and what potions work with others.

Comment by Woz12

Just found a pretty insane cheese spot, making the whole fight ridiculously easy (just like the one in burning steppes).
There is a ledge on the southern side of the hive (30.68), close to where the gnome spawns, north of his patrol near the little hill.
You gotta first clear the elites around then spawn him close to the spot. kite him to the ledge then jump down from the lower part, then jump back on and so on... (cheetah required).
Be sure to pull him in a frost trap to cancel his enrage and keep shooting arcane shot rank one on cooldown so he doesn't reset.
the bugs just go around with him so not a issue, just be careful with elite respawns.

Comment by Eldhannas

Just a note for Engineers: It's possible to use grenades or dynamite to kill the little bugs, but if you place a Goblin Land Mine and Solenor steps on it, it'll count as interference, and he'll despawn with the message "Only a fool would remain in this battle. Farewell, coward."

Comment by nimeral

Solenor is possible to kill without jump cheese and without CoR. Quite hard though.

I used the ledge near AQ gates. Did a lot of Cheetah-Concussive-Scatter kiting (to about half his HP) before using Wing Clip and entering the fear game. Ended up using Greater Shadow Protection Potion, Major Mana Potion, and Goblin Fishing Pole (carried that around forever lol). Didn't do R1 Volley although that seems reasonable if he's rooted and bugs are stacked.

Removing enrage seems to be the main trick regardless. Your damage almost doubles thanks to this. I used Frost Trap; unsure if you could just use the more natural Tranquilizing Shot.

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