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Comment by 4238

If someone could tell me where they spawn in DM I would be very happy.

Comment by 221

You can jump straight down and just kill a few groups of https://www.wowhead.com/classic/npc=13022 if you are careful and watch the patterns of the patrols soloing the Black Lotus if it spawns should be fairly easy though you will need some luck on its location on the grassy area.

Comment by iammercy

I have found that it will be in one place per zone at a time. So once you find one. Don't bother looking for more Black Lotus until a reasonable amount of time has passed for it to spawn again.

Comment by sarahmkratz

I have found if you are willing to spend some time, you can probably pick up 5-7 of these in about a 3-4 hour period. I flew all over the world one day to see how many I could pick and ended up with 7 I believe, without too much hassle.

Comment by Burner

I just thought I'd mention that black lotus will spawn in only one location in a zone at any given time (the different locations can be seen on the maps above) and that it has a 60-70 minute respawn timer. Because of the respawn timer, it's not too difficult to dominate the spawns in one continent if you're keeping track of how long before a zone has a black lotus spawn. I will mention that I've seen a couple times where the lotus respawned sooner, but generally, I found a 70 minute respawn to be true.

Comment by 37322

Gathered about 6 or 7 on a saturday so that means its not that hard to get just takes time

Comment by Allakhazam

anybody know the spawn rate of black lotus? is it a regional spawn rate? or a world spawn rate? if i sit in EPL and pick one, how long until another one spawns in EPL?

Comment by Allakhazam

i found one in Silithus 61, 31

Comment by Allakhazam

stumbled over one when returning from Bronzebeards Camp, only 1 try since I'm a Tauren, 315 herbalism :) though, I think it was still orange - only one I've seen since I maxed herbs

Comment by Allakhazam

I found one in epl in plaguewood somewhere smack in the middle of it. I don't use a coord system so I don't know exactly where it was. Was a nice find for something I wasn't looking for, lol.

Comment by Allakhazam

So far I have gotten both of mine in Eastern Plaguelands

Comment by Allakhazam

The black lotus is necessary for all potions called "flasks".

These potions are incredibly powerful. And they also continue after death. I am not completely sure, but i think that the black lotus has a 48 hour respawn timer.

Comment by Allakhazam

Found one in EP@ 39.25 hf

Comment by Allakhazam

Playing WoW for over a year I found one in my whole "game" life. Located in EPL, Plaguewood. Found it while killing mobs for AD rep. My current herbalism skill was 270-280, so I roamed through plaguelands for hours to skill it up to 300 to come back and pick it up.
BL goes around 6-9g per flower on my server.

Comment by Allakhazam

Found mine just outside the yeti caves in Ice Thistle.

Comment by Allakhazam

In answer to the person who wanted to know what this is used for. One of the uses I know of is for making Flask of the Titans.. probably the best potion in the game as it gives +1200 health for 2 hours :)

Comment by Allakhazam

It's extremely rare to find this herb, so if you haven't found it in Winterspring, it doesn't necessarily mean it doesn't exist.

Comment by Allakhazam

I found both of mine that i have in Burning Steepes. One in "the pillar of ash" which is sountheast of the spot where Gor'tesh spawns near the Dragonkin . And the other west of Blackrock Mountain near the temple, can't remember the name of the area, but it's the most northwestern area on the map. Hope this helps. And yes they are a RARE spawn.

Comment by Allakhazam

What exactly is black lotus? is it a herb? Trying to get a couple of 24 slot herb bags if anyone on firetree can make them...Horde 29lvl rogue paldev! Thanks

Comment by Allakhazam

haha, I guess you are not far on your server...a black lotus on our server, Magtheridon, you have to cough up 20 gold, and that's just bid, BO is @ 25-30g

Comment by Allakhazam

in my playing time,i have found over 20,and sold/given all of them off,cause dont make any flasks,so no use for them =) and never farmed,just when as example farmed rep to WS furbolgs found a lot =)

Comment by Allakhazam

It does exist in Winterspring. I got one there but it does seem to be quite rare.

Comment by Allakhazam

What is this actually good for? Found one, but got nothing to use it for...

Comment by Allakhazam

As at 1 Apr 06, respawn is quite short.

I picked a BL from the *same node* in times much less than the 48 spawn time listed below. It was under 3 hrs when I noticed the spawn was up again.

Edited, Sun Apr 23 05:59:23 2006

Comment by Allakhazam

i checked like 5 of the spots indicated for winterspring, do they actually have some in winterspring, or did i just have bad farming luck?

Comment by Allakhazam

can you get them with 300 herbalism also im thinking about taking up herbalismdoes it make alot of money?

Comment by Lurs

What happened to the spawn points in Burning Steppes? It only shows 4 now. I swear that last time that I checked the site a day or two ago, it showed all 10.

Comment by Arccai

There are two marks on each cave in burning stepps, are they placed at the entrance or inside the actual cave?

Comment by Lurs

WTF is going on? Now the Silithus map, which previously showed all 10 spawn points, is only showing 5.

Comment by Nightwinds

TomTom macro ready. Updated via the new map plots and people in thread.

Burning Steppes
/way 13.2, 30.8
/way 15.1, 30.3
/way 18.8, 48.7
/way 20.9, 46.6
/way 21.0, 46.4
/way 25.1, 62.5
/way 26.4, 59.2
/way 28.8, 62.6
/way 31.4, 61.7
/way 31.5, 61.7
/way 31.9, 69.4
/way 35.4, 49.1
/way 35.5, 49.1
/way 42.6, 37.6
/way 43.1, 34.4
/way 43.1, 34.5
/way 44.2, 57.1
/way 51.0, 61.9
/way 54.3, 63.4
/way 54.7, 36.4
/way 56.3, 53.7
/way 57.4, 61.5
/way 57.6, 61.6
/way 63.2, 36.9
/way 63.7, 60.8
/way 66.5, 40.0
/way 76.4, 47.2
/way 76.4, 47.5
/way 76.5, 47.2
/way 76.5, 47.5
/way 82.5, 34.2
/way 83.0, 38.0
/way 92.1, 53.2

Eastern Plaguelands
/way 16.4, 33.7
/way 16.5, 33.7
/way 22.9, 32.0
/way 26.7, 29.7
/way 27.6, 85.1
/way 28.7, 70.9
/way 37.9, 51.8
/way 38.9, 34.1
/way 39.8, 25.1
/way 42.4, 50.6
/way 42.5, 50.6
/way 45.5, 29.8
/way 46.2, 34.2
/way 59.7, 67.6
/way 65.6, 21.8
/way 67.5, 46.5
/way 69.4, 83.4
/way 70.8, 30.8
/way 72.0, 51.9
/way 76.6, 49.8
/way 80.0, 71.0
/way 82.0, 84.5
/way 85.9, 46.4
/way 86.0, 46.5
/way 87.9, 82.8

Silithus
/way 19.7, 84.6
/way 20.6, 23.4
/way 20.6, 23.5
/way 20.9, 62.0
/way 22.4, 39.4
/way 24.9, 17.9
/way 25.7, 58.6
/way 27.7, 34.1
/way 33.7, 13.5
/way 34.4, 91.4
/way 37.9, 34.9
/way 38.3, 60.7
/way 38.5, 60.8
/way 39.3, 85.0
/way 39.5, 85.0
/way 40.2, 46.8
/way 43.7, 18.2
/way 45.4, 91.3
/way 45.4, 91.5
/way 45.5, 91.3
/way 46.3, 83.5
/way 47.1, 54.4
/way 51.4, 50.3
/way 51.4, 50.5
/way 51.5, 50.3
/way 51.5, 50.5
/way 53.6, 76.4
/way 53.6, 76.5
/way 56.0, 20.3
/way 62.1, 83.5
/way 62.2, 83.3
/way 63.0, 53.6
/way 63.2, 29.0
/way 67.1, 15.0
/way 70.7, 23.0

Winterspring
/way 30.7, 35.4
/way 30.7, 35.5
/way 32.4, 44.4
/way 35.8, 36.5
/way 40.2, 44.2
/way 40.6, 36.1
/way 52.3, 40.3
/way 52.8, 27.6
/way 54.8, 10.6
/way 55.5, 52.4
/way 55.5, 52.5
/way 55.6, 44.6
/way 57.6, 49.5
/way 57.8, 69.3
/way 58.8, 53.0
/way 59.1, 60.1
/way 59.4, 74.2
/way 60.6, 29.9
/way 63.0, 17.7
/way 63.4, 21.1
/way 64.0, 73.8
/way 64.4, 69.3
/way 65.1, 64.3
/way 66.2, 60.8
/way 67.4, 41.4
/way 67.4, 41.5
/way 67.5, 41.4
/way 67.5, 41.5
/way 68.1, 53.0
/way 68.3, 36.6

Comment by cosmicdruid99

Can these come in stacks of 3 like other herbs, or is it limited to 1?

Comment by Strykie

Just worth noting if you are using the default Gathermate_2 Data, it is INCORRECT for Eastern Plaguelands, EPL .

This is because gathermate data is based on the WOTLK version of EPL which is squished a little bit to make room for the Death Knight starting zone.

Comment by lianzhu

blizzard made an update on how black lotus works in classic.
as posts may dissapppear or be difficult to find after some time (months/years), i add it here.
I removed non black lotus information.

Updated 3:00 a.m. CEST 28 May – The Black Lotus and Warsong Gulch hotfixes are live in all regions.

Via hotfixes, we’re working on several quality-of-life improvements that should go live in the next few days.

Black Lotus scarcity has been consistently among the top issues we’ve seen player feedback about, so we’ve decided to update how we handle Black Lotus spawns. Since the launch of WoW Classic, the game has used the spawn times and locations from original World of Warcraft, but population and social factors have led to Black Lotus being much more scarce than it was in original WoW. While these issues affect all mining and herb nodes to some degree, Black Lotus is especially affected because it has the special property of only having one spawn up at a time in each of the zones it spawns in.

In original WoW, designers planned Black Lotus around a technical limitation – only 10 spawn locations per node type could be active at the same time in the same zone. We no longer have that limitation, but it gives us a design intention that we can work with: Black Lotus was supposed to spawn in the widest variety of locations, while there could only be one up at a time in each zone. As always, our goal is to minimize differences from original World of Warcraft, and we feel this is a case where we can follow that design intention in a way that is warranted by modern conditions as well as beneficial to players.

We’re going to increase the spawn rate of Black Lotus, and we’re going to add many additional possible spawn locations in each of the Black Lotus zones. With a different hotfix, we’re working on making it so that a player cannot see a Black Lotus on-screen or on their minimap if they’re dead, unless they have 300 Herbalism.

We’ll have all of these changes noted for you in the next Hotfixes Update that follows them going live.

Thank you!

Comment by necrotoxin

New hotfix has them spawning 2 every 15 minutes. The old locations are still valid.

The nodes for burning steppes that have been reported are:

44,56
13,31
82,33
73,68
66,40
28,62 Confirmed
82,25
42,67
37,51
53,36 Confirmed
51,54 confirmed
63,60 Confirmed
42,37
56,53 Confirmed
31,69

I will try to continue to update this list and mark if personally confirmed.

Comment by Harangozo

New location in Silithus: 21:76

Comment by EliteDrago

Eastern Plaguelands

62,81
39,25

Comment by Sankcija

New spots.

/way Burning Steppes 18, 50 Black Lotus
/way Burning Steppes 55, 42 Black Lotus
/way Burning Steppes 51, 54 Black Lotus
/way Burning Steppes 92, 32 Black Lotus
/way Burning Steppes 26, 59 Black Lotus
/way Burning Steppes 66, 40 Black Lotus
/way Burning Steppes 54, 36 Black Lotus
/way Burning Steppes 13, 31 Black Lotus
/way Burning Steppes 63, 60 Black Lotus
/way Burning Steppes 25, 63 Black Lotus

/way Winterspring 57, 69 Black Lotus
/way Winterspring 60, 30 Black Lotus
/way Winterspring 58, 20 Black Lotus
/way Winterspring 52, 27 Black Lotus
/way Winterspring 68, 23 Black Lotus
/way Winterspring 40, 36 Black Lotus
/way Winterspring 64, 69 Black Lotus
/way Winterspring 58, 53 Black Lotus
/way Winterspring 32, 44 Black Lotus
/way Winterspring 65, 60 Black Lotus
/way Winterspring 65, 60 Black Lotus
/way Winterspring 64, 79 Black Lotus

/way Silithus 34, 91 Black Lotus
/way Silithus 30, 34 Black Lotus
/way Silithus 34, 14 Black Lotus
/way Silithus 20, 76 Black Lotus
/way Silithus 27, 34 Black Lotus
/way Silithus 56, 21 Black Lotus
/way Silithus 20, 62 Black Lotus
/way Silithus 25, 17 Black Lotus
/way Silithus 46, 83 Black Lotus
/way Silithus 58, 61 Black Lotus
/way Silithus 62, 29 Black Lotus
/way Silithus 64, 79 Black Lotus
/way Silithus 47, 55 Black Lotus
/way Silithus 37, 35 Black Lotus
/way Silithus 53, 77 Black Lotus
/way Silithus 31, 72 Black Lotus
/way Silithus 45, 28 Black Lotus

/way Eastern Plaguelands 22, 32 Black Lotus
/way Eastern Plaguelands 45, 30 Black Lotus
/way Eastern Plaguelands 46, 35 Black Lotus
/way Eastern Plaguelands 37, 51 Black Lotus
/way Eastern Plaguelands 66, 47 Black Lotus
/way Eastern Plaguelands 61, 81 Black Lotus
/way Eastern Plaguelands 61, 81 Black Lotus
/way Eastern Plaguelands 82, 84 Black Lotus

06.03.2020
/way Silithus 43, 18 Black Lotus
/way Silithus 33, 33 Black Lotus
/way Silithus 22, 38 Black Lotus
/way Silithus 70, 24 Black Lotus
/way Silithus 65, 68 Black Lotus
/way Silithus 61, 19 Black Lotus

Comment by Rothia

Originally posted by Kaivax on the Blizzard Forums 2020-05-28

"Via hotfixes, we’re working on several quality-of-life improvements that should go live in the next few days.

Black Lotus scarcity has been consistently among the top issues we’ve seen player feedback about, so we’ve decided to update how we handle Black Lotus spawns. Since the launch of WoW Classic, the game has used the spawn times and locations from original World of Warcraft, but population and social factors have led to Black Lotus being much more scarce than it was in original WoW. While these issues affect all mining and herb nodes to some degree, Black Lotus is especially affected because it has the special property of only having one spawn up at a time in each of the zones it spawns in.

In original WoW, designers planned Black Lotus around a technical limitation – only 10 spawn locations per node type could be active at the same time in the same zone. We no longer have that limitation, but it gives us a design intention that we can work with: Black Lotus was supposed to spawn in the widest variety of locations, while there could only be one up at a time in each zone. As always, our goal is to minimize differences from original World of Warcraft, and we feel this is a case where we can follow that design intention in a way that is warranted by modern conditions as well as beneficial to players.

We’re going to increase the spawn rate of Black Lotus, and we’re going to add many additional possible spawn locations in each of the Black Lotus zones. With a different hotfix, we’re working on making it so that a player cannot see a Black Lotus on-screen or on their minimap if they’re dead, unless they have 300 Herbalism.

We’ll have all of these changes noted for you in the next Hotfixes Update that follows them going live.

Thank you!"
https://eu.forums.blizzard.com/en/wow/t/black-lotus-and-wsg-adjustments-incoming/154603

Comment by Vegakuma

Here's a quick list of commands for TomTom I put together for the new spawns. These points are based on data available on the page.

Burning Steppes:

/way 13.2, 30.8
/way 15.1, 30.3
/way 18.8, 48.7
/way 20.9, 46.6
/way 21.0, 46.4
/way 25.1, 62.5
/way 26.4, 59.2
/way 28.8, 62.6
/way 31.4, 61.7
/way 31.5, 61.7
/way 31.9, 69.4
/way 35.4, 49.1
/way 35.5, 49.1
/way 42.6, 37.6
/way 43.1, 34.4
/way 43.1, 34.5
/way 44.2, 57.1
/way 51.0, 61.9
/way 54.3, 63.4
/way 54.7, 36.4
/way 56.3, 53.7
/way 57.4, 61.5
/way 57.6, 61.6
/way 63.2, 36.9
/way 63.7, 60.8
/way 66.5, 40.0
/way 76.4, 47.2
/way 76.4, 47.5
/way 76.5, 47.2
/way 76.5, 47.5
/way 82.5, 34.2
/way 83.0, 38.0
/way 92.1, 53.2

Eastern Plaguelands:

/way 16.4, 33.7
/way 16.5, 33.7
/way 22.9, 32.0
/way 26.7, 29.7
/way 27.6, 85.1
/way 28.7, 70.9
/way 37.9, 51.8
/way 38.9, 34.1
/way 39.8, 25.1
/way 42.4, 50.6
/way 42.5, 50.6
/way 45.5, 29.8
/way 46.2, 34.2
/way 59.7, 67.6
/way 65.6, 21.8
/way 67.5, 46.5
/way 69.4, 83.4
/way 70.8, 30.8
/way 72.0, 51.9
/way 76.6, 49.8
/way 80.0, 71.0
/way 82.0, 84.5
/way 85.9, 46.4
/way 86.0, 46.5
/way 87.9, 82.8

Winterspring:

/way 30.7, 35.4
/way 30.7, 35.5
/way 32.4, 44.4
/way 35.8, 36.5
/way 40.2, 44.2
/way 40.6, 36.1
/way 52.3, 40.3
/way 52.8, 27.6
/way 54.8, 10.6
/way 55.5, 52.4
/way 55.5, 52.5
/way 55.6, 44.6
/way 57.6, 49.5
/way 57.8, 69.3
/way 58.8, 53.0
/way 59.1, 60.1
/way 59.4, 74.2
/way 60.6, 29.9
/way 63.0, 17.7
/way 63.4, 21.1
/way 64.0, 73.8
/way 64.4, 69.3
/way 65.1, 64.3
/way 66.2, 60.8
/way 67.4, 41.4
/way 67.4, 41.5
/way 67.5, 41.4
/way 67.5, 41.5
/way 68.1, 53.0
/way 68.3, 36.6

Silithus:

/way 19.7, 84.6
/way 20.6, 23.4
/way 20.6, 23.5
/way 20.9, 62.0
/way 22.4, 39.4
/way 24.9, 17.9
/way 25.7, 58.6
/way 27.7, 34.1
/way 33.7, 13.5
/way 34.4, 91.4
/way 37.9, 34.9
/way 38.3, 60.7
/way 38.5, 60.8
/way 39.3, 85.0
/way 39.5, 85.0
/way 40.2, 46.8
/way 43.7, 18.2
/way 45.4, 91.3
/way 45.4, 91.5
/way 45.5, 91.3
/way 46.3, 83.5
/way 47.1, 54.4
/way 51.4, 50.3
/way 51.4, 50.5
/way 51.5, 50.3
/way 51.5, 50.5
/way 53.6, 76.4
/way 53.6, 76.5
/way 56.0, 20.3
/way 62.1, 83.5
/way 62.2, 83.3
/way 63.0, 53.6
/way 63.2, 29.0
/way 67.1, 15.0
/way 70.7, 23.0

Comment by Lakreda

still missing several spawns in silithus and epl.

bs and ws look good tho from what i can tell.

Comment by naitis

61.6 81.6 new location on the island below Corin's Crossing

Comment by Titanot

Just found one in Plaguelands 54.5, 69.4, it isn't marked on this map

Comment by durenas

Gathermate string for people who want all the black lotus nodes in Burning Steppes. Personally verified by me, all these nodes work.

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= 431,
= 431,
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= 431,
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= 431,
= 431,
= 431,
= 431,
= 431,
= 431,
= 431,
= 431,
= 431,
= 431,
= 431,
= 431,
= 431,
= 431,
= 431,
= 431,
= 431,
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},

Comment by YungGnome

Looks like whenever an elite spawns in the ARENA outside the dungeons, in the middle of DM, a Black Lotus might spawn with them.

I saw 2 elites on a dead server and 2 Black Lotus spawns on the ground along with a couple of other herbs.

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Black Lotus

This object can be found in Burning Steppes (44), Silithus (39), Winterspring (38), and Eastern Plaguelands (33).

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