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1.	To Ironforge for Yagyin's Digest
2.	The Star, the Hand and the Heart
3.	Forbidden Knowledge

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Comment by 8714

The items drop off the following mobs:

Grel'borg the Miser in Alterac Mountains. (Nb Coordinates, Patrolling Mob of Alterac)
Grel'borg moves from the Town Hall to the Castle. He starts in the Town hall, but I found him just inside the castle door off to the left.

Mogh the Undying - Stranglethorn Vale - (48,44)
This mob is located at 48,44 with two other mobs as bodyguards. He's easy to kill with two people attacking, so I recommend you take someone else along because it's nearly impossible alone. He has a regeneration of his health which makes him so hard, so remember to bring heavy DPS.

Dagon the Ravenous - Dustwallow Marsh - (59, 9)
Roam around the island searching for a Mirefin Oracle on the outer edge, You need to kill Mirefin Oracles to get the piece of Kelp required to summon Dagon the Ravenous. When you place the Kelp inside an altar at the coordinates, Dagon comes out of the water and onto the beach. He's rather easy to kill though, but I recommend you bring a friend with you.

Comment by 3013

The specific Kelp you'll be looking for is Enchanted Sea Kelp and - as you would see from the item's page - has a pretty crappy drop rate.

I've spent several hours with various characters farming those oracles. If you intend to do this quest, prepare to be on this step for a while (unless you're lucky).

Comment by Thottbot

60,10 for altar and ull find some oracles there too

Comment by Thottbot

Hi everyone,

it tooked me about 2 days to get the Kelp the first time after killing countless murlocs. As i was about to clean up around the altar the Kelp droped a second time, only approximatly 20 minutes after i got the first Kelp.

So for everyone who failed the first attempt: the murlocs DO drop the Kelp more then just once. just be pacient and dont give up.

i did the quest at lvl 47 (druid) and got 5600 xp for the hand in in IF.

Comment by Thottbot

A couple of alliance were taking all my kills while I was trying to get the kelp so I bided my time, waited and then attacked their giant when they summoned it! Try this if your lazy/being harrassed or both!

Comment by Thottbot

Killed about 50 murloc oracle when i got the enchanted kelp. Right click on kelp near altar and the giant comes from east, no add murloc was in way, level 43 elite, could kill easily.
Murlocs are level 36-38, so around level 43-44 its a piece of cake quest.

Happy murloc hunting!

Comment by Thottbot

Grel'borg the Miser (40,48) Alterac Mountains
Mogh the Undying (48, 44) Stangelthorn Vale
Dagon the Ravenous (59,09) Dustwallow Marsh

Comment by Thottbot

Ok, so Dagun (the giant) and Grel'borg (the ogre) aren't too hard to complete as a rogue. You should be able to do this with relative ease, pop evasion, stun or gouge, bandage when you have to...

However when it came to Mogh, it was a little bit more difficult, but not impossible. Yes the spawn times are quick, but you can work around this by clearing only the front near the ramp. You can single pull all the mobs, besides the berserker and Mogh's slave. Do so, and you should have an open area with those three left. At this point, you are trying to eliminate the berserker next to him. So sap the slave and move away from Mogh, while killing the berserker. Finish him, and then vanish. Mogh and the slave should remain. Wait for your potion and/or evasion timer(s) and sap the slave again while taking out Mogh. Done.

Comment by Thottbot

easy as a 47 rogue with riposite (disarm) he had no weapon the whole 1 minute fight :D

Comment by Thottbot

You are looking for a piece of kelp that is a drop from one of the murlocs. You place that on the altar and he will show. It's all in the journal that I finally read....

=)

Comment by Thottbot

Grel'borg the Miser (40,48) Alterac Mountains
Mogh the Undying (48, 44) Stangelthorn Vale
Dagon the Ravenous (59,09) Dustwallow Marsh

FOR Dagon the Ravenous you must first kill a oracle for get an item ... then you place it on the "ball" in the middle and he will come

did it myself lvl 43 druid

Comment by Thottbot

the summoning altar is located on the largest of the four islands clustered in the north east of dustwallow marsh. pretty much just farm there and then summon the guy, he comes from the water so try to clear first.

the ogre guy walks around in the ruins of alterac from the main building where the lead ogre is to right around the church.

the damn troll is by far the hardest of the three to kill. he's located in the ruins of zul'marme (think that's the spelling tho the scroll you get tells you this too). he's standing still tho he's surrounded immediately by his slave who heals him and one other troll. now, the area he's in also has around 5 more trolls and the way they fight, they can add very quickly. as a 45 rogue this was tough just b/c of all the surrounding guys. got him, looted and ran. gl.

Comment by Thottbot

did the murloc part in Dustwallow marsh..took me hours..killed about 200 murlocs..just dotn forget to clean all around before u summon the Giant ELite 45 ..unless ur a lock lvl 47+ =) VW FTW
stupid quest..stupid drop rate..why blizard do this?

Comment by Thottbot

I just soloed this as a 46 fire mage. Dagun and Grel'Borg are pretty straight-forward and easy. Mogh however is a different story.

Basically, to solo Mogh, I had to get it down to just him and his healing minion. You're able to pull most of the mobs alone easily enough, but there's always one mob that stands right next to him, and another that paths to and away from him. Disposing of the latter is simply a matter of timing, but the former basically involves quickly killing him and then running away until Mogh resets. Do not bother to try and kill the healer this way, because Mogh will simply summon a new one.

Now that you've got Mogh and the healer alone, it's time to kill them. While charging up a Pyroblast on his slave (you MUST kill him first or he'll make the fight impossible as he heals for quite a bit), target Mogh and be ready to sheep the second the Pyroblast is away. Now you must simply deal with the mind slave quickly before he has a chance to heal (you want to save your counterspell).

So now it's just you and Mogh who is hopefully still chilling as a sheep. Pop Combustion, charge up a pyroblast, and let it rip. After your first Fireball cast a Counterspell to keep Mogh from spamming his shadowbolts for a little while. At this point it's basically a DPS race between you and Mogh, and if you got the Countespell off you should be well on your way to victory. If you screw up the CS like I did simply chug a nice fat health pot and you should still have him no problem, especially when you start critting.

Comment by Thottbot

It's actually not that bad i found. I killed 30 odd oracles, summoned boss he's easy!
Ogre was easy too... as for troll, well hes the challenge, I got help from 44 rogue and we killed him easy.

Tip with oracles - take a break if they not dropping, helped with me, got it second kill :O

Comment by Thottbot

I killed maybe two dozen on the large island before I stumbled upon a level 37 elite murloc just wandering around. He dropped the kelp immediately. He is just a little bit north of the alter, on a hill.

Try killing him for the kelp, if you're having a hard time.

Comment by Allakhazam

i swam up from the south and cleared all the islands of oracles and had it drop fairly quick before i even reached the altar island... its easier than trying to clean the specific island out multiple times. the ogre was an easy 2nd and im on my way to kill the undying. got to this later on, so its not a hard solo at 45+

Comment by Allakhazam

I've single-handedly put Murlocks on the endangered species list in search of Dagum in Dustwallow. Can anyone lend a hand with directions for finding this elusive prey?

Comment by Allakhazam

Where does this guy spawn? I've searched the entire Alterac ruins area and no Grelborg. Does he take forever to respawn or do you have to like kill 100 ogres for him to appear? This is real annoying.

Comment by Allakhazam

I spent 70 minutes killing Murlocs (at approximately 2/minute) before the Kelp dropped... and naturally I was fighting 2 oracles at the time, and BOTH dropped it! GAAAAAHHHHHHH!

Comment by Allakhazam

You can kelp from any of the murlock's you just have to kill till it drops. Dagun's a lvl 43 elite, you summon him on the northenmost island off the coast, coordinates 58-9. I took him with help, I'm a 43 hunter and had a lvl 40 hunter with me. We took him easily, taking no damage to either of us. It took me 45 minutes to get the kelp tho... Good luck!

Comment by Allakhazam

I killed exactly 8 of the oracles RIGHT by the altar and the kelp dropped on the 8th one. Then I summoned dagun. The whole ordeal took me about 4 mins.

Comment by Allakhazam

The ogre walks around in the elite ogre area of Alterac Mountains. He's level 39, mostly spell-casting but melees are pretty good. Try not to pull any adds with him!
Dagum, I haven't tried him yet, can't wait to behead all those murlocs...
I need help with the troll in STV. I know where he is, but he's got two adds on him at any given time. Plus he's elite and probably has spells that fling people back into the Ming Dynasty. Suggestions?

Comment by Allakhazam

Well I guess I got lucky, got the seaweed on the first oracle I killed. Than took down Dagum solo as a 45 paladin.

Comment by Allakhazam

Since nobody has posted it yet, here's the text of the quest scroll:

The Star of Xil'yeh

An ogre in Alterac, Grel'borg the Miser, was the last known owner of this gem. Whispered to empower its owner with the ability to commune with other worlds. Sources tell us Grelbord wanders the ruins of Alterac in the Alterac Mountains, searching the rubble and debris for more relics.

The Hand of Dagun

Dagun is a creature of the deep waters, worshipped by Murlocs in Dustwallow Marsh. They entice him to the surface with a special sea kelp, enchanted by their shamans. Hunt the Murlocs, gather their enchanted kelp, then place it on the Murloc's altar. Dagun will come, and you will be waiting.
I want that hand.

The Legacy Heart

Old texts say that he who possess the Legacy Heart fears not the grave. Perhaps this is true, for the owner of the heart, the htroll Mogh, is known as Mogh the Undying. A witchdoctor of the Skullspitter tribe, Mogh dwells in Stranglethorn in the Ruins of Zul'Mamwe.

Comment by Allakhazam

for a second i thought i was killing in the wrong area. turns out im going to have to kill about 200 before this baby drops.

Comment by Allakhazam

The one guy is outside the castle, in red, the Dagun guy, I did not wait for 500 mikfins to drop so i bought the Enchanted Sea kelp at the AH. The last guy in STV you can solo by just pulling mobs. That is what I did on My 47 lock and feared and cursed him.

Comment by Allakhazam

Grel'borg the Miser: this ogre wanders around where people doing the crown of will (horde) quest chain will probably kill him moderately regularly. He's a caster about the same toughness as the mobs in the 41 elite stage of the crown of will (Targ, Muckrake, and Glommus), and he wanders around in the same general area. In my limited experience, the challenge on this stage will be finding him first while he's up. I've run three undead through the Crown of Will, and in the process of that and this quest, I've seen Grel'borg just about everywhere one can find Crushridge Maulers or Crushridge Enforcers.

Dagun: kill the murlocs near the altar (59,8). They appear to have a drop rate on the order of 5-10%. All of the other murlocs in Dustwallow appear to have a drop rate on the order of 0.05%. He hits hard, but is eminently kiteable. (I AoE farmed over a hundred murlocs away from the altar to verify the drop rate elsewhere is poor, and then went to the altar and got it before I finished clearing around the altar.)

Mogh the Undying: this is the mob that gives this quest its difficulty level. A very careful individual may limit the size of the combat by a combination of choosing the approach and careful pulling - you *can* get up on the wall that protects Mogh's back and side, and if you take out the one mob in the corner, have a decent area to work in. Mogh has the most hit points of those with whom he will always pull, by a fair margin, and so should be the last to be dealt with, though all applicable crowd control works on all of the adds. His friendly healer should probably be the second to last to die, as Mogh can bring him back, although sheep/sap may work better, if available. Mogh is apparently a shaman - not much of a surprise, as most, if not all, witch doctors in the game are apparently shamans.

Comment by Allakhazam

I had a small party, but don't think I needed them for this one. Lvl 46 Rogue. I decided to kill some murlocs while I waited for my party to arrive, and the 1st one I killed dropped the kelp. :D Now to Alterac.../target you say?

Comment by Allakhazam

Grellborg and the Star-

i found Grellborg in the castle at 37, 52. Followed him outside and killed him at 38, 52. he was easy as pie. his level was 38 elite. he cast's Rain of Fire which did around 130ish dmg a tick. Wasn't too difficult but then again I'm a level 42 rogue so i stealthed past all the other ogre's. also if you're up to the challenge Targ a 41 Elite is in the chapel to the right of the Castle if you're lookin' on your map at 39,53. He was a bit difficult for me the first time so i vanished, but got him easily the second time. He droped a greenie but it was worth it.

Comment by Allakhazam

The same as somebody below, I at first spent two hours killing Oracles and then got second Enchanted Sea Kelp while clearing the space around the altar. You cannot have two, but I at first placed one on the altar and before Dagun came I looted the Oracle who had the second one; let's see if anybody will buy it on AH, I'll try 2g50s.

Dagun: It is wise to clear around the altar - when Dagun is injured enough, he will run around for help.

Comment by Allakhazam

for those of you with map coords, the murlocs and altar you need are at 59, 8

Dugan is a 43 elite, an make sure you kill all the murlocs nearby before summoning him, he comes up fron the water to the SE of the altar.

note: the first time i tried to get him it bugged part way through and he had 100% health and was evading everything i cast, no healing spell that i saw. got him easy the second time (lvl 47 mage solo)

Comment by Allakhazam

killed around 350 oracals no kelp.. screw this quest.

Comment by Allakhazam

I found most of the mirifin oracles to kill in northmost island, coordinates 60,11. Just killed those. After 20, i got kelp so not too bad. Ignored the warriors and runners. ignored the other islands which gave me nothing and had almost no oracles to kill.

Comment by Allakhazam

the kelp is droped by a elite murlock mob on the island next to the one whith the alter

Comment by Allakhazam

Follow Infiniterage's post and you'll be fine.

I do feel as though I need to vent.. murlocs..? spent about 2 hrs one day killing them around the altar with no luck, of course it was a quest where i said to myself, i'll finish this quest then go work, so naturally it wont finish just to get me annoyed :P Clearing the island over and over wasnt fun especially with a dranei and human working together. Thankfully am a hunter and could track humanoids to see the murlocs as they spawned before the alliance did xD
Day after that, swam up, first four oracles I met, one dropped it. If that isn't an example of sods law I don't know what is xD Good luck everybody.

Comment by Allakhazam

Well I have to give up too after 3 hours killing poor Grifin Oracles on the 4 islands.

GM said you Keep it up..

Enouth Gray farming

Comment by Allakhazam

The level on this quest is 44, the follow on 'give Theldurin the book' quest is 40...I waited a while to hand it in, and this quest was green, the follow-on was grey. 2250xp at level 52 for this part of the quest, expecting nearly none for the grey part. Oh, got the kelp on my 5th oracle, either I'm lucky, or they increased the drop rate.

Comment by Allakhazam

It's true that Grel'borg the Miser walks out of the ruined tower, but if you just can't find him, or are impatient, he spawns in the basement of the tower.

I managed to get into the basement, however, I died from aggroing too many mobs on the way in.
(I tried to sneak in, relying on the fact that I was higher level than the ogres. That tactic failed miserably, by the way. If I'd fought my way in, it probably would have been better--slower, but better.)

I rezed in the basement and just had time to regain health and mana when he appeared. I took him out easily enough.

I fought my way out and lived this time. ;)

Now for the other two......

Edited, Dec 4th 2006 2:07pm by stevenator -- spelling

Edited, Dec 4th 2006 2:38pm by stevenator

Comment by Allakhazam

took me 15 minutes, and thought that was taking for ever... soloed the guy with a lvl 45 warrior btw

Comment by Allakhazam

Piece of cake if you can get him alone...like said earlier, he wander's around the castle (inside and out). I beat him, and almost escaped his friends who were attacking me too. Got what I went in for tho, and if I'd had flash powder like a good thief should, then I would have lived too - lvl 46 Rogue

Comment by Allakhazam

Has anyone tried to use VW Sacrifice shield or SpellStone or Power word Shield in conjunction with this item to see if the damage is absorbed?

Tamorand/Namuh
Hunter/Warlock

Comment by Allakhazam

im on 150 murlocs now. its things like this that make me want to quit this damn game.

Comment by Allakhazam

Completing this quest leads to...

Quest: Forbidden Knowledge
Forbidden Knowledge Dagun the Ravenous is a 43 lvl Elite Giant.
Took me about 45min to get the kelp to drop.

Edited, Sun Mar 20 04:24:57 2005

Comment by Allakhazam

I hate murlocs :D I spend 1hour and a half killing oracles, and i finaly got the kelp. After that, i went to the island with the altar, and when cleaning it, 2(!) more kelps dropped. After killing the sea giant, I took one more with me, just in case ;)

Comment by Allakhazam

If you read the previous posts you will find all the information needed about where to find these three gents. I will say this quest was moderately easy for a 46 shadow priest. Grimbolg the Miser was a joke, 39 elite went down fast. Dagun, 43 elite sea giant, was also easy to solo. The only problem I had was farming for the damn kelp which took nearly 45 min of repetitive murloc killing. Rawrglbglbglbglb... god that sound haunts my dreams... Anyway, the only one I had trouble with was Mogh the Undying out in STV, his damn pet kept healing him, but in the end both went down.

Comment by WDStudios

For everyone saying the troll is the hardest... bullcrap. You can go down there, pick off all the surrounding trolls, attack the boss, die, run back, attack him again, die again, run back again, pick off all the trolls again because they've respawned, etc. twenty or thirty times and finally get him down, and it will still take you less time than you'll spend on killing fifty billion murlocs to get that goddamn kelp that never ever drops.

Comment by maurotdo

Be sure no one is around waiting to ninja tag Dagun... it happened to me and had to re-grind 100+ murlocs

Comment by korvahk

Took 39 kills to get the drop for enchanted sea kelp. Thats 3% drop.

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The Star, the Hand and the Heart

Bring the items on Bel'dugur's Note to Keeper Bel'dugur in the Undercity.

	Star of Xil'yeh (1)
	Hand of Dagun (1)
	The Legacy Heart (1)

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	Bel'dugur's Note (1)

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You need Yagyin's Digest? Your plan, then, is to gather another flock? Of course it is...and of course I will help you, <brother/sister>.

But you must help me too.

I require three items of power. Bring me these and the digest will be yours.

I cannot utter the names of these items, but I will write them down.

Get me the items on this list. If you can do that, then you are truly worthy of opening your own chapter of our order.

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The following spell will be cast on you:

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See if you've already completed this by typing:

/run print(C_QuestLog.IsQuestFlaggedCompleted(736))

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