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Comment by darkarsenic

The burst damage of hemo rogues. its usually used in conjunction with eviserate for a heavy crit. Can be macroed for an instant cold blood eviserate with this macro.
/cast Cold Blood
/cast Eviserate

Comment by 8271

I disagree with dark this is what i think should work and i hope it will.
/cast Cold Blood
/cast Stealth
/cast Ambush
OHHH YEAH DPS!

Comment by Sebas

Ambush is a waste for this spell (unless you are fighting something that you cant get 5 combo points on)... this is best used for eviscerate, though I've seen a few impressive crits for mutilate with rogues that have higher attack power

Comment by PorkFork

With the talents that increase your Backstab and Ambush abilites by 15% each those attacks already have a better chance of gaining a crit then a eviserate does, for PvE rogues in my guild prefer using it for a eviserate.

Comment by 8456

The macro system has been changed in 2.0.1. Therefore, cb+evi macro should be changed as follows:
/cast Cold Blood
/stopcasting
/cast Eviscerate
It works fine. I have tested it. ;)

Comment by 8773

Be careful that you do not use your eviscerate before you get your combat points. Before patch 2.0.1, you could use your Cold Blood in anticipation to when you get all 5 combo points. For hemo rogues, you could cast Cold Blood and be able to Cheap Shoot, Hemo till 5 combo points, then crit on your Eviscerate. The Cold Blood has now changed to be ANY offensive spell, which Hemorrhage is. Make sure to use your Cold Blood AFTER you get your combo points.

Comment by 11336

While I was testing my ambush damage in WPL I found out that the pick pocket ability also sets cold blood off (read: uses it).
Just so you don't waste it.

Comment by Nines

Great talent, 100% critical strike chance on your next "special attack".

I'm currently Mutilate specced and CB Mutilate is a fantastic burst combination. Extremely quick combo point generation with a CB mutilate.

In BG's I tend to CB Ambush (unless the target is pre-poisoned then it's CB Mutilate) for that extremely quick kill. If a fight is long or going to be prolonged then i'll await maximum combo point generation then CB eviscerate.

Whichever you prefer CB is best used when you want a guaranteed critical strike.

And yes you can CB pickpocket (doesn't improve loot though ;) )

Comment by 39110

Now that there's this new-fangled resilience, does that affect this talent in any way? I mean, if you have 30% chance to crit + 100% chance, but your foe has a large amount of resilince, could that lower it below 100%?

Comment by Thottbot

Post 2 makes more sense. It does say that it increases the chance by 100%, not that it gives a 100% chance of getting a critical strike.

Comment by Thottbot

u damn morons this guarantees a crit, test it out urself so u can witness the might of this beauty =D

Comment by Thottbot

i agree with the guy above me, you can have more than 100% increase on something thats a stat boost. but with cold blood it doesnt matter, its either crit or, miss/parry/dodge ect. flame more kthx

Comment by Thottbot

Ok guys - if you had any idea of what you were talking about, you would know that if you activate CB you will ALWAYS crit, unless you get dodged/parried/blocked/ or you simply miss.
There is no Math involved, please people, play your own class and stop trying to confuse the newbish rogues into picking the wrong talents because they think that a talent is gimped. I have a 60 rogue on a pve Aggramar server - Alliance (although i wish i had made him horde:( ) (Neandor), if any of you want to come and let me CB eviscerate you 100 times to see how many arent crit feel free...it-will-crit-every-single-time-if-it-hits...otherwise please just shut up
Dont pay attention to how blizzard words things, you guys are taking it too literal and making it too complicated.
^^Nice explanation of it whoever the person was who said the thing about evasion %'s in the spellbook :)

Comment by Thottbot

Cold Blood = 100% crit
(I don't care if it adds to or not, it can be 200% for all I care, it will STILL crit on the next move.)
Cold Blood does not mean 100% hit.
When the move misses/dodge/parried/blocked Cold Blood is expended.

So those of you complaining why your BS, and Ambush did not crit its because you missed, since all attack have a 5% miss. (This can be fixed with talents)
If you your SS, and Eviscirate did not crit its because you are in front of the person, and is subjected not only to misses but also dodge, parry, and blocks.
In other word you were button slammers and did not noticed your move did not land ie. did not crit.

End Disscusion.

PS. I really dislike all you math morons and grammer freaks, spare us. The answer is so simple, but you got to go through all these bull #$%^s. It only makes you look more stupid in my eyes.

Comment by Thottbot

When activated, your next SS, BS, Ambush, or Evis WILL crit IF it hits. If your move misses, is dodged or parried, then Cold Blood will be expended.

That said, I do find it rather annoying when I activate Cold Blood only to miss when I use Evis or BS.

Comment by Thottbot

ok ill buy 100% crit but is most of our like to movr on 19% crit or its being our wow played today ofcourse iknow some people nice will make 100% crit yes u will make math for this --sorry for my bad wnglish

Comment by Thottbot

What people seem to forgetting is that the target you are hitting also influences your crit rate. Defense reduces crit chance.

Ofcourse, atm there isn't any gear in the game that grants so much defense that a rogue crit rate drops below 100% with cold blood (as it's 100 + whatever the rogue's normal crit rate is).

So yeah, in practice this guarantees a crit on a hit. In theory however it does NOT.

Comment by Thottbot

How can you go on telling each other the same thing, don't you get tired of it. I mean the last 10-20 post has said "It ADDS 100%". come on, we get it.

Comment by Thottbot

I agree they should change the description to "chance of critical hit is 100%" If I had known that (or read thottbott before I began placing talent points) I might have gone this route, cause it sounds pretty nasty. I only assumed if your crit % is 15, it would add 100% of 15 to that and double it to 30 (and with a quicker cooldown, maybe it would still be worth it). But obviously it works every time since you boys are so adamant about it. Still, blade flurry/ evasion/ adrenaline rush makes for some sick damage too, and I still think it to be a better combination for pure damage output. Godawful amounts of SS's, 2 eviscerates(possibly crits) and increased weapon speed for 15 seconds will more than make up for not having this one guaranteed crit. About the only way to lose here is if youre outnumbered, in which case any rogue probably isnt walking away from it without some sloppy Hordies letting you vanish.

Comment by Thottbot

STFU! coldblood is a must have move! yeah you crit alot as a rogue anyhow but to know you deff have a crit comming when needed most is a great feeling! the move can miss/parry/dodge chances are it wont
a shammy has no prob removing cb if he know's what he doing, its best to use for ambush or while you have taget stunned! otherwise it may go to waist, my build is 30/0/21 so if its takin away i can just blind/prep an try agin

Comment by Thottbot

RipperRoo, dude don't be an asstard.

Learn2think...

Just because you see uber rogue gankage in those videos doesn't mean jack shiat, there are videos like that for every class, people show the best fights they've had when everything goes right for them.... if they showed the reality of it you'd see rogues missing stuns/ambushes/etc. and getting WTFpwned by other classes all the damn time.

Though rogues are the best class at slaughtering nubs that lack skill, maybe that's why you fear them.

Comment by Thottbot

you people can keep quaraling over whether it crits every time or not, but i have another question.

when cold blood is active do you get a blue glow around your hand? i have seen rogues with a glow when they have cold blood active, and just wanted to confirm it

Comment by Thottbot

yes in fact cold blood adds a blue glow (which is more bad then good) because it shows when cold blood will be used.

And for the 26 rogue....u cant even use cold blood.... and if u could u still would prolly suck/when dueling a priest we get dotted,feared,mind blast and soon to come Aoe!
if a priest is cheap he can keep u feared/redot/fear/mindblast and WTFpwn u be4 u get a counter on him (if he detects you useing persept human or alc). As a rogue using cold blood prep i have learned kick saves ass and stunlock is ALOT harder and weaker then fear, so tell me how is a rogue uber? 1.8k envis? HA u heal your self 2k in 3.5 (soon to be 3!) sec AND u still have time 2 mind blast/dot, the only class we can take is mage (btw i have a 60 mage useing arcanist) and we cant even stun lock mages (blink) and if u can slow a rogue hes dead cept for vanish (which if your human u use perseption and watch us walk) AND on top of all this there are pots/spells/abilites that TOTALY end stealth (perseption/detect invis) so tell me after all this a rogue is over buffed? ive seen a green lock take a NS cold blood rogue on useing imp/scubby and warrs? HA 6k hp/kite/exicute kills us 1 hit if they use a rage pot and wat do we get? thristle tea. Dont get me wrong i love my tea but 40-60 rage AND 20 +str? WTFpwned so go lvl to 30 and plzcrymore

Comment by Thottbot

just to let you know.
Rogue can do kick (5 sec no cast) then if he has Imp. Gouge stuns for 5.5 sec then i can do kick again and keep going like that... (And as a herb i can heal my self to) so how can you heal and/ or attack Rogues just pwn all.. i dont know how you did that but its got to be a noob rogue

Comment by Thottbot

Ok heres what the really does...
ok, Cold Blood allows you to have 1 crit with certain skills... I would ussually use it with ambush after i use vanish in PvP.

HAPPY GAMING...

Comment by Thottbot

this is just me, but i am 21/0/4 atm i am only lvl 34 but i know what is good and whats not... cold blood ofcourse is a very handy spell, but i am going to be an assassination / subltey rogue "cookie cutter rogue"... stealth, cold blood ambush, vanish, preperation(talent subltey,finishes all cds) cold blood ambush dead :)

Comment by Thottbot

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Comment by Thottbot

omg guys .. youre all saying the same thing "Cold blood gives you 100%crit chance + 22% (if you have 22% before) unless if some1 dodges it parrys it or if you miss" hahahaha say it once then you dont have to say it anymore i dont need to read it 6 times to understand what you are talking about. So please post something we dont know.

Comment by Thottbot

I was expecting a lot of posts from people saying how much they love the talent....nice little beating of the dead horse here.

I respecced when I hit 60 and gave up Ad Rush for this, which I still miss. However I do love this, something just completely badass when you hit that and your hand glows.

So far every CB evis I've done has a crit. If it didn't what would be the point?

I got my first 2000+ evis the other day.

Comment by Thottbot

many times....it's only 100% chance to crit if you hit....

other than that, i love this talent....i love it in PvP as well as PvE....player/mob has less than 50% health? CB/5 point Eviserate=dead....i also have prep, so i can use this more often...

Comment by Thottbot

i switched to combat / swords / adrenaline rush

never looked back since. with a slow 2.7 delay mainhand and adrenaline rush SS/ SS/ SS/ EVIS (repeat until AR runs out) does far outweighs one crit and you probably crit 4-8 times or more during the AR anyway.

CB only missed for me a few times but it was enough for me to consider a respec, and my crit chance is around 24% anyway so i definatley dont miss it over AR.

Comment by Thottbot

Ever since 1.12 and new evisc, I can do 1,8k with a few buffs. Luv it. In AV, I just flank the front, and be on a lookout for some clothie, abmush, backstab, and CB evisc. And pray that I wont get a nova, or scream. And by the way... you have a 100% crit chance against a sitting target. Drinking mages have a priority for me.

Comment by Thottbot

First of all : krew : you are an idiot. You said that "detect invisibility" pot/buff would help against stealth. I got news for you : STEALTH IS NOT INVISIBILITY.

Second : I am a lvl 46 rogue ATM and I`m thinking of changing my talents to assasination. So I want to ask : is it better to use CB before ambush or evisc? Also, is it better to CS, get cps and then cb evisc or just try to smack the target with ambush,ss/bs,ss/bs/evisc? (gouge is not in the list bcuz it sucks in BGs. Hard to hit in the right time, when enemy is facing you and also some1 will prolly break it soon after)

Comment by Thottbot

If you use swords or maces, go Adrenaline rush and just SS spam all day.

If you use daggers, Gouge --> backstab --> CB evis. or something to that end.

I personally prefer Combat Swords because if there is a miss/dodge/parry there is no real loss as i can just keep on spamming SS; whereas with daggers a gouge miss/block or a CB miss would pretty much screw you over.

Comment by Allakhazam

ive built my rouge totally assasination just to get this ability , this rules

Comment by Allakhazam

is the cool down 2 min?

Comment by Allakhazam

This is by far the godliest skill...i stealth in IF ....cold blood...ambush...vanish....drink down a thistle tea..Ambush and dance on their bodys.

Comment by Allakhazam

it has 3 minutes CoolDown

Comment by Allakhazam

THIS ABILITY RULEZ!i built up my talents just to get that.COLD BLOOD + 5 combo ervicirate=HUGE CRIT!

Comment by Allakhazam

BADASS :D

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Cold Blood

Cold Blood

Talent

Instant	3 min cooldown

When activated, increases the critical strike chance of your next Sinister Strike, Backstab, Ambush, or Eviscerate by 100%.

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n/a

School

Physical

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n/a

Dispel type

n/a

GCD category

n/a

Cost

None

Range

0 yards (Self)

Cast time

Instant

Cooldown

3 minutes

GCD

0 seconds

Aura proc chance

100%

Effect

Apply Aura: Modifies Critical Strike Chance (7)
Value: 100
PVP Multiplier: 1
Affected Spells:

	Backstab	Sinister Strike	Sinister Strike
	Sinister Strike	Sinister Strike	Sinister Strike
	Eviscerate	Backstab	Backstab
	Backstab	Eviscerate	Eviscerate
	Eviscerate	Sinister Strike	Eviscerate
	Eviscerate	Ambush	Backstab
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	Ambush	Ambush	Ambush
	Ambush	Ambush	Backstab
	Backstab	Backstab	Sinister Strike
	Sinister Strike	Eviscerate	Eviscerate
	Backstab	Eviscerate	Quick Draw
	Mutilate	Mutilate	Envenom
	Saber Slash	Shiv	Main Gauche
	Poisoned Knife	Poisoned Knife

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