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Comment by trankillity

Threat Reduction Details:
This effect gives a flat value reduction in threat generation per spell cast.

-100 Threat: Frostbolt, Scorch
-20 Threat: Arcane Missiles, Fireball

As you can see, the Netherwind set favors Frost Magi over Fire Magi due to the higher threat reduction on Frostbolt than Fireball. It also favors Frost Magi due to the 8 piece bonus only activating on the primary Frost nuke (Frostbolt) whilst not activating off the more mana efficient Fire nuke (Scorch).

Comment by danroe

"Friendly" nukes.

Comment by Thottbot

Update!

So I ran some tests on an internal server. I'm using a different version of WoW, so I can't be 100% sure if these findings are accurate on 1.8 Live servers. The good news is that if things are different, then I'm testing what they WILL be for 1.9.

- Netherwind 3 piece bonus. It works fine. It's reducing the flat amount across all spell levels. There's no apparent "inverting" going on. The numbers for threat reduction you've seen for the three spells are technically correct, since the flat reduction is applied on every missile of Arcane Missiles, and on the initial DD and each of the 4 ticks of the Fireball DoT.

- "Stacking" of threat reduction effects. Every single one of them I tested stack. This includes the Netherwind bonus, Arcane Subtlety, Blessing of Salvation, Nemesis Bonus, and Master Demonologist. However, note that they don't always stack in the way you might hope. You don't add all the percentages up, then apply the combined multiplier to the damage your spell does to obtain threat. So if you have Blessing of Salvation (30%), Master Demonologist (20%), and the Nemesis set bonus (20%), you aren't generating just 30% of your normal threat. The true number is something a bit higher. The specific details of the stacking are something I'll pursue further with the class team and programmers to make sure we're happy with how they're working, but the important thing is that each bonus does provide a significant threat reduction.

Daelo
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Comment by Allakhazam

first!

Comment by Allakhazam

Can someone explain me what means Threat coz i dunno:/

Comment by Allakhazam

The threat reduction is not 20% as Skullo says, imo, but is a flat amount that is different for each of the spells.

Frostbolt and scorch have 100 threat reduced, fireball and arcane missiles get 20 threat reduced. That's the equivalent of doing 100 less damage on a frostbolt/scorch and 20 on the others.

"The numbers for threat reduction you've seen for the three spells are technically correct, since the flat reduction is applied on every missile of Arcane Missiles, and on the initial DD and each of the 4 ticks of the Fireball DoT. "

https://www.wowhead.com/wotlk/sp=21879

note: I don't claim to be an authority on this, it's just my interpretation of the thottbot info about Friendly Nukes :P

Edited, Thu Jun 1 11:37:42 2006

Comment by Allakhazam

someone knows exact % threat gets reduced ?

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Friendly Nukes

Friendly Nukes

Reduces the threat generated by your Scorch, Arcane Missiles, Fireball, and Frostbolt spells.

Modifies Threat -10000:
Frostbolt, Frostbolt, Frostbolt, Frostbolt, Frostbolt, Frostbolt, Frostbolt, Frostbolt, Frostbolt, Frostbolt, Frostbolt, Frostbolt, Frostbolt, Frostbolt, Frostbolt, Frostbolt, Scorch, Scorch, Scorch, Scorch, Scorch, Scorch, Scorch, Scorch, Scorch, Scorch, Scorch

Modifies Threat -2000:
Fireball, Fireball, Fireball, Fireball, Fireball, Fireball, Fireball, Fireball, Fireball, Fireball, Fireball, Fireball, Fireball, Fireball, Fireball, Fireball

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Physical

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n/a

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None

Range

0 yards (Self)

Cast time

Instant

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n/a

GCD

0 seconds

Effect #1

Apply Aura: Modifies Threat (2)
Value: -10000
PVP Multiplier: 1
Affected Spells:

	Frostbolt	Frostbolt	Frostbolt
	Scorch	Frostbolt	Frostbolt
	Frostbolt	Frostbolt	Scorch
	Scorch	Scorch	Frostbolt
	Frostbolt	Frostbolt	Scorch
	Scorch	Scorch	Frostbolt
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	Frostbolt	Frostbolt	Scorch
	Scorch	Frostbolt	Frostbolt
	Frostbolt	Scorch	Scorch

Effect #2

Apply Aura: Modifies Threat (2)
Value: -2000
PVP Multiplier: 1
Affected Spells:

Fireball	Fireball	Fireball
Fireball	Fireball	Fireball
Fireball	Fireball	Fireball
Fireball	Fireball	Fireball
Fireball	Fireball	Fireball
Fireball

Effect #3

Apply Aura: Modifies Threat (2)
Value: -2000
PVP Multiplier: 1
Affected Spells:

Arcane Missile	Arcane Missiles	Arcane Missiles
Arcane Missiles	Arcane Missiles	Arcane Missiles
Arcane Missiles	Arcane Missiles	Arcane Missiles
Arcane Missiles	Zangarmarsh Arcane Missiles	Arcane Missiles
Arcane Missiles	Arcane Missiles	Arcane Missiles

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